Let me first introduce myself, my name is Jay! This little beauty was found in irwindale in the San Gabriel river!!! I believe it's a meteorite

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devldog

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Jay, a Big Welcome to You to the Tnet forum from Georgia. I'm sure someone will chime in soon that can help you with an ID.
 

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Ok my next question is who wants to buy it!? Or maybe I could do a raffle of sorts!?
 

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Welcome to Treasurenet :) Nice find is it magnetic? I understand Metorite's are magnetic . Is this correct ?
 

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Welcome. It should be slightly magnetic. What size is it? Ebay is the best place to sell stuff like that.
 

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Ok my next question is who wants to buy it!? Or maybe I could do a raffle of sorts!?
Only charter members and supporting vendors can sell here and no raffles allowed.
 

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As you can see I cut the one in half i had these xrayed at a gold shop and the one that is cut in half came back as/ 97.1%IRON,1%COPPER,0.6%GOLD,&0.5%TITANIUM! DOES THAT HELP AT ALL WITH IDENTIFICATION !?
 

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As you can see I cut the one in half i had these xrayed at a gold shop and the one that is cut in half came back as/ 97.1%IRON,1%COPPER,0.6%GOLD,&0.5%TITANIUM! DOES THAT HELP AT ALL WITH IDENTIFICATION !?

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Yes, that helps a great deal. It couldn't be a meteorite. There are multiple reasons why, but most significant piece of information is the absence of nickel, which would never be the case for an iron meteorite. Nickel is always associated with the presence of iron in meteorites. No exceptions.

The native metallic components of meteorites are generally in the region of 6-20% nickel (higher in the metal from stony meteorites), with most of the rest as iron. There may be cobalt in amounts up to about 2%, copper in amounts up to about 0.02%, plus traces of manganese and tin. Anything else will usually be in parts per million, or present as non-native compounds.

It also isn't a natural piece of geology. Native iron is extremely rare on Earth and almost exclusively found in in the upper northern hemisphere: Canada, Alaska, Siberia, Greenland etc. as silicated iron deposits.

Whatever you have, it's man-made and from an industrial process.
 

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lupolijay30

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Welcome to Tnet.

Yes, that helps a great deal. It couldn't be a meteorite. There are multiple reasons why, but most significant piece of information is the absence of nickel, which would never be the case for an iron meteorite. Nickel is always associated with the presence of iron in meteorites. No exceptions.

The native metallic components of meteorites are generally in the region of 6-20% nickel (higher in the metal from stony meteorites), with most of the rest as iron. There may be cobalt in amounts up to about 2%, copper in amounts up to about 0.02%, plus traces of manganese and tin. Anything else will usually be in parts per million, or present as non-native compounds.

It also isn't a natural piece of geology. Native iron is extremely rare on Earth and almost exclusively found in in the upper northern hemisphere: Canada, Alaska, Siberia, Greenland etc. as silicated iron deposits.

Whatever you have, it's man-made and from an industrial process.
Could it be a warhead or something like that if you look at the front of it,it looks like it has flow lines that are present it looks like it was traveling at a high velocity of speed and melting backwards!?
 

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Could it be a warhead or something like that if you look at the front of it,it looks like it has flow lines that are present it looks like it was traveling at a high velocity of speed and melting backwards!?

I wouldn't rule out it being shrapnel.
 

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lupolijay30

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If you look at the pics again there is a totally different looking rock that's only slightly magnetic and has white spots or veins on it!?
 

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Why would there be 0.6% Au/GOLD & 0.5%Titanium

If you look at the pics again there is a totally different looking rock that's only slightly magnetic and has white spots or veins on it!?


No idea I’m afraid. I know a lot about meteorites and a fair amount about geology in general but I’m not a metallurgist.

What you haven’t told us is the degree of accuracy relating to the analyses… usually expressed as either the standard deviation σ (sigma) or converted to confidence limits as ± with a % confidence.

I can only repeat that the absence of nickel is conclusive for it not being a meteorite and native iron with that level of purity would not naturally occur in the region where you made your find.

There are circumstances where gold-bearing ores occur in proximity to iron ores and that gold would carry through to the metallic smelted pig-iron. Those kinds of ores almost invariably have some copper too.… but they wouldn’t normally yield more than a gram or so of gold per metric tonne. Titanium dioxide also frequently occurs with iron oxide ores (known as titaniferous iron ores) and those can range all the way from very low levels up to about 40% titanium in the smelt. Modern stainless steels are also sometimes produced with around 0.25-0.6% titanium as a substitute for higher levels of chromium. Pig iron produced from recycled scrap can have all kinds of other metals at low levels since it can’t be scrupulously sorted to remove everything non-iron before smelting, but would be unlikely to contain more than a few ppm of gold.
 

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