🔎 UNIDENTIFIED Military Button from old WW2 baracks site

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Looks like it might be a version of the coat of arms for the city of Paris (since the 14th Century). There are numerous versions of it, with different shield shapes having ships with between one and three masts, with or without the castellate crown above it, and with or without the oak and laurel leaves around it.

Paris 1.jpg Paris 2.jpg Paris 3.jpg

In certain periods, the fleurs-de-lis were replaced by bees, and then by stars, before the old coat of arms was restored in 1853. The three medallic badges (as in the third example above) were then sequentially added to the full armorial in 1900, 1919 and 1945.

Your button looks like it might have a motto above. If you can see any part of ‘FLUCTUAT NEC MERGITUR’ as the letters then it’s definitely for Paris, since that’s the city’s motto, meaning “[She] is tossed [by the waves], but does not sink”.

I have a feeling that, if this is French, it’s not military but civic authority of some kind. This one is similar to yours and was worn by Parisian police officers and prison guards:

Paris 4.jpg

Are there any backmarks which might help?
 

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tcornel

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Aug 11, 2011
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Looks like it might be a version of the coat of arms for the city of Paris (since the 14th Century). There are numerous versions of it, with different shield shapes having ships with between one and three masts, with or without the castellate crown above it, and with or without the oak and laurel leaves around it.

View attachment 2066162 View attachment 2066163 View attachment 2066164

In certain periods, the fleurs-de-lis were replaced by bees, and then by stars, before the old coat of arms was restored in 1853. The three medallic badges (as in the third example above) were then sequentially added to the full armorial in 1900, 1919 and 1945.

Your button looks like it might have a motto above. If you can see any part of ‘FLUCTUAT NEC MERGITUR’ as the letters then it’s definitely for Paris, since that’s the city’s motto, meaning “[She] is tossed [by the waves], but does not sink”.

I have a feeling that, if this is French, it’s not military but civic authority of some kind. This one is similar to yours and was worn by Parisian police officers and prison guards:

View attachment 2066165

Are there any backmarks which might help?
Thank you for the information. I added some more photos. There is a ship with 3 masts at the bottom and a crown above. I will post better pictures when my friend who had an untrasound unit gets it back to me. It does appear that there is letters across the top.
 

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