My way to water hunt!

coin_diver

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Lady Pirate

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If you send me one, I'd be more than happy to use it and log it's use, recovery, mileage and anything in between! More than happy indeed!!!!!! This is more than "WAY COOL"!!!! :hello2: :headbang: :laughing9:
 

bigscoop

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If I was still up north I'd have to have one of those........but down here, in the surf...... :BangHead: :laughing9: :thumbsup:
 

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Very Kewl, but would have a very limited area of use, I do like the bigger unit you have on your website, would be perfect for a boat.
 

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coin_diver

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Thanks for the comments! It is a fair-seas machine but even the great lake lie down in the am.

Per the boat app, I am also building one for my boat to run submerged. Where there's a will there's more equipment!
 

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I like it :thumbsup:
I sent you an E-Mail requesting more info.
 

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Could see it working well in the right areas. I think even in fair seas however, the noise would be a no go on our beaches.
 

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coin_diver

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Before the throttle control, perhaps but now with the water exhaust and control it is very quiet. Hardly noticeable from shore. My goals were to have no ambient interference while listening for whispers.
 

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When hunting with a scoop it is easy to nail the shallow but very difficult to obtain the deep. Do you have any video of very deep targets being located in the 12 to 16 inch range, kinda hard to tell how much material is being moved. Thanks Joe
 

stevemc

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In Florida this wouldnt fly, they have a no dredging law, fresh and saltwater. It would be neat to use wading though, just as your video shows. I was thinking have the suction tube, with a ball valve/diverter, and have it mounted right in the middle of your coil, on a slider tube, so you could go deep as necessary. Open the valve and slide the tube down to pick up the target. Then it would change sound as you got the target. A water exhaust would be nice to muffle.
 

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coin_diver

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All items considered during design. It has an underwater exhaust and add'l baffling making it very quiet.
The trigger is mounted in the handle and is only run up to recover the target.
A coil p/u was considered but didn't pan out. This was more efficient in testing.
Fl is no different than any other state, they have to be approached properly. Look, I have great results in NY, this is hardly the old west here. I met with, showed videos, informed officials on methodology and even provided insurance. If we don't invest some effort then we can expect the same results.

Let me state unequivocally, this is not a dredge everyone. A dredge works by moving massive amounts of material to find a small number of targets and the officials know this. You don't use a backhoe to recover a coin on land do you? You pinpoint. This is why the 2" size is perfect for the sport.

Bottom line, we have to be more judicious about how we protect our hobby and saying we want to dredge up the shore line gains us no ground. A nonsensical approach to "coin recovery" will draw more supporters. I spent 3 years re-designing a unit that would appease hunters as well as officials. It wasn't easy.

Thanks for your comments, I appreciate them all.
 

Sandman

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I've used a coin dredge in the past but they are very restricted now as you need a permit for any dredging equipment from the DNR in most states. They do cause a lot of damage to the bottom but it is the silt that harms spawning fish that causes all the trouble. Some guy tried to use one at a state park beach swim area last year and had Sheriff Dept boats and the DNR give him tickets and take the dredge. Just check your laws in your state before plunking any money down on any dredge now days.. I considered dredging more like work and I felt it wawsn't as much fun as MD'ing.
 

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how does it refill the holes ?
 

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coin_diver

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Per the holes, it doesn't however the hole left behind is so small it fills almost immediately.

Per the DNR, if you were to study the sedimentary plume from scooping vs. the vac you'd find there is equal siltation from lifting a scoop to the surface and shaking it or pouring it into the screen, as long as the solids volume was equal which it is not.

I can assure you that in a side by side comparison the scoops cause more bottom damage than the vac. I have studied it and the state agrees. I would be interested in someone showing the comparison to dredging. Technically or practically it doesn't exist. .4l vs. 8l of material per target (assuming a 1 scoop recovery) I know because I went through an Major Environmental Impact study and have the engineering report that was submitted to our state DEC.

Look, we all have to live by rules, the key is understanding the rules and living within them. If you enjoy scooping, then by all means do so but if you want to challenge the status quo then stand up and be heard. Do any of you say to the nice home owner, would you mind if I ripped up your yard, ma'am?

My intent here was to help those people who simply cannot scoop 300x per day. My permissions did not come easily nor was the educational curve inexpensive. Use what works for you, the country is still semi-free.

Again, thanks.
 

stevemc

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Sounds good. PM me the prices, I didnt see them on your website. Steve.
 

Jason in Enid

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Your big one looks like a 4 inch.

2 questions.... What width is the sluicebox, and where did you get the recovery basket?

I already have a keene 4inch, but I need a good recovery basket for the end.
 

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