πŸ₯‡ BANNER New Random Field - Day 4 - Hammered + ROMAN GOLD COIN (Wish List No.3)...

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We returned close to where we had marked off & I made a judgement call on the area Cru'dad could grid in a day (enough to finish up against our previous grid), so that I could grid right at my pace & Cru'dad could grid left at his slower pace. Saves me having to turn at the end of runs & finish his grid. (wastes time going back to the start, especially on large area grids)
As luck would have it the Roman Gold was half way on my 2nd run! It's pretty heavy clay & I picked up the lump with it in & saw the rim of a gold coin. Immediately thought Gold Coin but before giving it more thought, I cracked open the lump to see a bust I immediately recognised as either Magnetius/Decentius. I think there was then a lot of '''I've done it''. I turned around to Cru'dad & shouted ''Gold'', of course Roman Gold is furthest from our minds, but then I added ''Roman Gold'' & took it to him before taking off the reverse side of the lump, so we could see it together. We found no other signs of Roman activity & our best guess is they came off the nearby main road & rested on this hillock. This actually fitted my previous prediction that we won't find one on one of a 50 Roman Sites but on one of our ''Random Fields'' (ie. not a site, with no intel) with nothing else on it. (which funny enough is what I called this field in my posts!)
It's taken us 16,569 Roman Bronze Coins & 370 Roman Silver to get this 1 & to be honest I wasn't sure we ever would. (35 years of effort)The timing is perfect as they are trying to amend the Treasure Act to include single Gold Coins of this period, but the amendment has been held up by COVID.:icon_thumright: Otherwise I would hand it in & a local Museum would probably buy it. We phoned the landowner immediately & he saw the coin & the find-spot. (We will give him half the value to keep it)
No Silver before lunch but I then went on to get all the silver for the day, Cru'dad just getting some odds & ends...

5 Hours Gridding;

18th Light Dragoon's Officer Button (late 18th C) - First for me.
2 Unknown Pewter Buttons
Tudor Strap-end
2 small Leather Mounts - Kings Head & a 17th C type
Larger Horse Harness Mount - 18th-19th C
3 17th C Buckles
1944 Sixpence
1891 Shilling
1582 Lizzy Sixpence
(Funny thing was, we got no hammered in the big grid but as soon as I started heading off the the car I got it!)
1804 John Death London Silver Spoon
Gold Solidus of Mag. AD350-51 Trier Mint:headbang: (The condition is amazing)

Hard call but I think this beats our best day of 3 Celtic Gold (I had 2, Cru'dad 1) earlier this year.


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Update

UPDATE:
Sorry can't add to top post anymore, here is an XRF of the coin.
My mate who did this for me stated the actual smelt metal would be a higher %age of gold because the surface is contaminated by the ground.
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We returned close to where we had marked off & I made a judgement call on the area Cru'dad could grid in a day (enough to finish up against our previous grid), so that I could grid right at my pace & Cru'dad could grid left at his slower pace. Saves me have to turn at the end of runs & finish his grid. (wastes time going back to the start, especially on large area grids)
As luck would have it the Roman Gold was half way on my 2nd run! It's pretty heavy clay & I picked up the lump with it in & saw the rim of a gold coin. Immediately thought Gold Coin but before giving it more thought, I cracked open the lump to see a bust I immediately recognised as either Magnetius/Decentius. I think there was then a lot of '''I've done it''. I turned around to Cru'dad & shouted ''Gold'', of course Roman Gold is furthest from our minds, but then I added ''Roman Gold'' & took it to him before taking off the reverse side of the lump, so we could see it together. We found no other signs of Roman activity & our best guess is they came off the nearby main road & rested on this hillock. This actually fitted my previous prediction that we won't find one on one of a 50 Roman Sites but on a ''Random Field'' (ie. not a site, with no intel) with nothing else on it. (which funny enough is what I called this field in my posts!)
It's taken us 16,569 Roman Bronze Coins & 370 Roman Silver to get this 1 & to be honest I wasn't sure we ever would. (35 years of effort)The timing is perfect as they are trying to amend the Treasure Act to include single Gold Coins of this period, but the amendment has been held up by COVID.:icon_thumright: Otherwise I would hand it in & a local Museum would probably buy it. We phoned the landowner immediately & he saw the coin & the find-spot. (We will give him half the value to keep it)
No Silver before lunch but I then went on to get all the silver for the day, Cru'dad just getting some odds & ends...

5 Hours Gridding;

18th Light Dragoon's Officer Button (late 18th C) - First for me.
2 Unknown Pewter Buttons
Tudor Strap-end
2 small Leather Mounts - Kings Head & a 17th C type
Larger Horse Harness Mount - 18th-19th C
3 17th C Buckles
1944 Sixpence
1891 Shilling
1582 Lizzy Sixpence
(Funny thing was, we got no hammered in the big grid but as soon as I started heading off the the car I got it!)
1804 John Death London Silver Spoon
Gold Solidus of Mag. AD250-51 Trier Mint:headbang: (The condition is amazing)

Hard call but I think this beats our best day of 3 Celtic Gold (I had 2, Cru'dad 1) earlier this year.


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Wow!!!! That's Incredible!!!! The stuff I've only saw in books!!! Super Congrats!!!! Wow!!!!
 

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Man, oh, man! What a fabulous find! I thought we were about due for something big here! A banner find sure to excite everyone who swings a coil!
 

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Fantastic gold there congrats to you and dad!
 
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The hook puzzled me. As long as it's a Solidus and not the 1.5 or 2 variant...
Yeap, it's 4.42g when a solidus should be circa 4.5g. Actually if it were the lighter version, it would be worth more or like you say the 1.5 or 2 bigger types.
 
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Spectacular find....amazing recovery, glad it wasnt bent in half.
I know odds are it should be. Heavy clay is bad for bronzes & can be good to protect finds, unless it sticks out of a hard lump & game over.
 

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We returned close to where we had marked off & I made a judgement call on the area Cru'dad could grid in a day (enough to finish up against our previous grid), so that I could grid right at my pace & Cru'dad could grid left at his slower pace. Saves me having to turn at the end of runs & finish his grid. (wastes time going back to the start, especially on large area grids)
As luck would have it the Roman Gold was half way on my 2nd run! It's pretty heavy clay & I picked up the lump with it in & saw the rim of a gold coin. Immediately thought Gold Coin but before giving it more thought, I cracked open the lump to see a bust I immediately recognised as either Magnetius/Decentius. I think there was then a lot of '''I've done it''. I turned around to Cru'dad & shouted ''Gold'', of course Roman Gold is furthest from our minds, but then I added ''Roman Gold'' & took it to him before taking off the reverse side of the lump, so we could see it together. We found no other signs of Roman activity & our best guess is they came off the nearby main road & rested on this hillock. This actually fitted my previous prediction that we won't find one on one of a 50 Roman Sites but on one of our ''Random Fields'' (ie. not a site, with no intel) with nothing else on it. (which funny enough is what I called this field in my posts!)
It's taken us 16,569 Roman Bronze Coins & 370 Roman Silver to get this 1 & to be honest I wasn't sure we ever would. (35 years of effort)The timing is perfect as they are trying to amend the Treasure Act to include single Gold Coins of this period, but the amendment has been held up by COVID.:icon_thumright: Otherwise I would hand it in & a local Museum would probably buy it. We phoned the landowner immediately & he saw the coin & the find-spot. (We will give him half the value to keep it)
No Silver before lunch but I then went on to get all the silver for the day, Cru'dad just getting some odds & ends...

5 Hours Gridding;

18th Light Dragoon's Officer Button (late 18th C) - First for me.
2 Unknown Pewter Buttons
Tudor Strap-end
2 small Leather Mounts - Kings Head & a 17th C type
Larger Horse Harness Mount - 18th-19th C
3 17th C Buckles
1944 Sixpence
1891 Shilling
1582 Lizzy Sixpence
(Funny thing was, we got no hammered in the big grid but as soon as I started heading off the the car I got it!)
1804 John Death London Silver Spoon
Gold Solidus of Mag. AD250-51 Trier Mint:headbang: (The condition is amazing)

Hard call but I think this beats our best day of 3 Celtic Gold (I had 2, Cru'dad 1) earlier this year.


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We returned close to where we had marked off & I made a judgement call on the area Cru'dad could grid in a day (enough to finish up against our previous grid), so that I could grid right at my pace & Cru'dad could grid left at his slower pace. Saves me having to turn at the end of runs & finish his grid. (wastes time going back to the start, especially on large area grids)
As luck would have it the Roman Gold was half way on my 2nd run! It's pretty heavy clay & I picked up the lump with it in & saw the rim of a gold coin. Immediately thought Gold Coin but before giving it more thought, I cracked open the lump to see a bust I immediately recognised as either Magnetius/Decentius. I think there was then a lot of '''I've done it''. I turned around to Cru'dad & shouted ''Gold'', of course Roman Gold is furthest from our minds, but then I added ''Roman Gold'' & took it to him before taking off the reverse side of the lump, so we could see it together. We found no other signs of Roman activity & our best guess is they came off the nearby main road & rested on this hillock. This actually fitted my previous prediction that we won't find one on one of a 50 Roman Sites but on one of our ''Random Fields'' (ie. not a site, with no intel) with nothing else on it. (which funny enough is what I called this field in my posts!)
It's taken us 16,569 Roman Bronze Coins & 370 Roman Silver to get this 1 & to be honest I wasn't sure we ever would. (35 years of effort)The timing is perfect as they are trying to amend the Treasure Act to include single Gold Coins of this period, but the amendment has been held up by COVID.:icon_thumright: Otherwise I would hand it in & a local Museum would probably buy it. We phoned the landowner immediately & he saw the coin & the find-spot. (We will give him half the value to keep it)
No Silver before lunch but I then went on to get all the silver for the day, Cru'dad just getting some odds & ends...

5 Hours Gridding;

18th Light Dragoon's Officer Button (late 18th C) - First for me.
2 Unknown Pewter Buttons
Tudor Strap-end
2 small Leather Mounts - Kings Head & a 17th C type
Larger Horse Harness Mount - 18th-19th C
3 17th C Buckles
1944 Sixpence
1891 Shilling
1582 Lizzy Sixpence
(Funny thing was, we got no hammered in the big grid but as soon as I started heading off the the car I got it!)
1804 John Death London Silver Spoon
Gold Solidus of Mag. AD250-51 Trier Mint:headbang: (The condition is amazing)

Hard call but I think this beats our best day of 3 Celtic Gold (I had 2, Cru'dad 1) earlier this year.


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Well, it's about time! I imagine they'll be some celebrating! I wish I could be there just to hold it...
 

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AMAZING!!! You're living the dream. Congrats on another banner find.
 

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We returned close to where we had marked off & I made a judgement call on the area Cru'dad could grid in a day (enough to finish up against our previous grid), so that I could grid right at my pace & Cru'dad could grid left at his slower pace. Saves me having to turn at the end of runs & finish his grid. (wastes time going back to the start, especially on large area grids)
As luck would have it the Roman Gold was half way on my 2nd run! It's pretty heavy clay & I picked up the lump with it in & saw the rim of a gold coin. Immediately thought Gold Coin but before giving it more thought, I cracked open the lump to see a bust I immediately recognised as either Magnetius/Decentius. I think there was then a lot of '''I've done it''. I turned around to Cru'dad & shouted ''Gold'', of course Roman Gold is furthest from our minds, but then I added ''Roman Gold'' & took it to him before taking off the reverse side of the lump, so we could see it together. We found no other signs of Roman activity & our best guess is they came off the nearby main road & rested on this hillock. This actually fitted my previous prediction that we won't find one on one of a 50 Roman Sites but on one of our ''Random Fields'' (ie. not a site, with no intel) with nothing else on it. (which funny enough is what I called this field in my posts!)
It's taken us 16,569 Roman Bronze Coins & 370 Roman Silver to get this 1 & to be honest I wasn't sure we ever would. (35 years of effort)The timing is perfect as they are trying to amend the Treasure Act to include single Gold Coins of this period, but the amendment has been held up by COVID.:icon_thumright: Otherwise I would hand it in & a local Museum would probably buy it. We phoned the landowner immediately & he saw the coin & the find-spot. (We will give him half the value to keep it)
No Silver before lunch but I then went on to get all the silver for the day, Cru'dad just getting some odds & ends...

5 Hours Gridding;

18th Light Dragoon's Officer Button (late 18th C) - First for me.
2 Unknown Pewter Buttons
Tudor Strap-end
2 small Leather Mounts - Kings Head & a 17th C type
Larger Horse Harness Mount - 18th-19th C
3 17th C Buckles
1944 Sixpence
1891 Shilling
1582 Lizzy Sixpence
(Funny thing was, we got no hammered in the big grid but as soon as I started heading off the the car I got it!)
1804 John Death London Silver Spoon
Gold Solidus of Mag. AD250-51 Trier Mint:headbang: (The condition is amazing)

Hard call but I think this beats our best day of 3 Celtic Gold (I had 2, Cru'dad 1) earlier this year.


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I've got gold fever!
 

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lenmac65

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Banner!!! That gold is spectacular! What a fabulous looking coin- so interesting. Congrats on all the great finds.
 
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A nice "in situ" picture of it stuck to the dirt clump would have really captured the moment.
Steve, I agree it would have.
I don't own a mobile & the one Cru'dad carries is a basic phone with no camera. I have no intentions of getting a mobile & the digital camera I used to carry got busted. I don't want to take the only Digital Camera I have (14 year old 5gb) which I use to post my finds on here. Its bulky to carry & I don't want to break it.
Money is tight (for me) & I have no plan to buy a 'spare' one.
Therefore, insitu shots are a thing of my past until I win the lottery.
 
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Money is tight & I have no plan to buy a 'spare' one.
Therefore, insitu shots are a thing of my past until I win the lottery.
"We phoned the landowner immediately & he saw the coin & the find-spot. (We will give him half the value to keep it)"

Was thinking about that one yesterday, it's going to be a few Quid for that beauty.
Congrats again-impressive number ratio bronzes/silver/1 rare gold
 
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"We phoned the landowner immediately & he saw the coin & the find-spot. (We will give him half the value to keep it)"

Was thinking about that one yesterday, it's going to be a few Quid for that beauty.
Congrats again-impressive number ratio bronzes/silver/1 rare gold
Cru'dad phoned (as stated with a burner style phone) & it's my inheritance being played forward. However, although the landowner is now aware of it's market value he may or may not want cash. We give him a good quantity of the finds(Lion's share, like our last lot we gave), & may end up giving him the next Gold Coin. (therefore no cash needed)
 

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In terms of world wide finds, it doesn't often get much better than that! Also how do you top that? what is the next one on the list?
 
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In terms of world wide finds, it doesn't often get much better than that! Also how do you top that? what is the next one on the list?
Wish List No.1 - Hoard (not fussy what - bronze/silver/gold coins)
Wish List No.2 - Saxon Gold Coin - So this one ''might'' be achievable but another very tough one
 

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