OLD BENTWOOD BOXS MARK THE LOST SPANISH MOUND

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OLD BENTWOOD BOX'S MARK THE LOST SPANISH MOUND

I found this old box, it has not moved and may have never been seen since it was placed, hundreds of years ago. it is empty BUT HAS BONES UNDER IT AND 6 BOARDS BEHIND IT.
Its green because It has been used by otters as a bathroom. i HAVE FOUND MANY AND SOME HAVE BONES in them , i could use help figuring out the the maker of the box. i know its older then 1735 but that's all. I'm guessing its a crate of a ship, its small, 2 feet by 14 inches, it is made with dove tails and dowels , the open part is hinged [BENTWOOD] . The top, behind it, is made so its water proof when closed up. I think its a shipping crates, from an old ship. I am not going to rule out viking ship boxes.
if you are confused about the words "dem boards "pm me and i will tell you the code.

this box seems to be marking a cave that was filled in. it is just a over hang with a tiny cave behind it.

 

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[CRUSADER]

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You want to know the maker of a 18th century box with no marks on it?

Its George Birthwright master boxmarker, Baker Street, East London, Feb 1776.

Does look like a ship's cargo box.

 

[hmmm]

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here is another one, they are old empty boxes with one side open. This is bone dry and is deep in a cave.

 

[SHERMANVILLE ILLINOIS]

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Yes, they are boxes.

How do you know it is older than 1735?

have a good un...............
SHERMANVILLE

 

[hmmm]

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i just threw 1735 in there, just a guess. actualy the cops dated some of dem boards near the first box. these beads came from a home stead on the next island. i found a spike and these beeds where around it. 10 inches down sitting on a burnt layer.

 

[SHERMANVILLE ILLINOIS]

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i just threw 1735 in there, just a guess.

Interesting

 

[Ralphw]

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what kind of location is that? and is that second box wet?

 

[wesfrye53]

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The second box looks like it has nail holes.

 

[Ramitt]

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Does nto seem to me like a box from the 1700s would be in such good shape when left exposed for over 200 years.

 

[sanford.]

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Otter droppings alone would have rotted the wood if it had been exposed to the elements for 200+ yrs. Not to mention weather and insects.

 

[Ralphw]

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try and pull one of the nails out and get a clear close up picture of it

 

[hmmm]

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the holes are from wood dowels, the first box is protected under a over hang and the second box sites deep in a cave , done dry.

 

[Ralphw]

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those are dowels on the second box?

 

[hmmm]

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its dowels from the third box.

 

[lumbercamp]

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Probably a dynamite box from the early 1900's.

 

[Copperhead]

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are the dovetails handmade?...are all the panels one board?...looks pretty intricate to me....

 

[hmmm]

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THE BOXES DO seem to be made of 1 board, but if you look on the second box you can see where the top and botom board are lashed togather. here is a picture of dowls from lose smaller boards, they look like small treasure box boards. wishfull thinking

 

[junkdigger]

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I agree with lumbercamp. I found a box tucked into a niche in the rocks,that looked like yours.But the one I found still had the Dupont stencil on it.Dynamite,60% nitroglycerine,dated 1939. I took the Dynamite out(IT WAS DAMP!) and brought the box home.
Was there any mining ever done where you found it?

 

[Ralphw]

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can you get a close up or 2 of that second pic?


where those long 5 or 6 straight grooves are and down in the middle where the lines kind of form a v

looking at those pictures they are definitely old at least 80 to 100 I would guess without seeing it up close.

most of the old dynamite boxes I have seen are thicker 3/4 and finger joined at the corners. not saying that this isn't a
dynamite box just different than the norm if it is.

what part of the country is this?

are there any train tracks near by?

 

[cheese]

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Those boxes are very old. I am interested to find out more. Have you done any detecting around where these boxes are?