Phineas & Thomas

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Phineas & Thomas

Managed to grab a few hours searching this afternoon, and the weather was great. Had a few finds, and most pleasing of all one was a 17th Century traders token (one of my favourite type of finds). The token is classed as of uncertain place of issue, perhaps Yorkshire in Dickinson's. Well this one did come up from the soil of South Yorkshire. The token was issued by Phineas Lambe and Thomas hardwick, and is dated 1666. I've started to gently clean it and it seems to be comming up well. The other two finds are a very clipped medieval hammered silver penny, and a cute hand made button 17th/18th Century.

Robert.

 

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[Silver Searcher]

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Super Finds Rob 1666 just think that Token was being made while London was burning

SS

 

[Iron Patch]

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Super detail, but I would have left it green.

 

[september]

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Nice find!!

 

[robfinds]

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Super detail, but I would have left it green.

Over a period of weeks the green colour will slowly begin to re-emerge, you just have to leave the token in natural light, on a window sill.
Robert.

 

[shaun7]

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That's a nice one Rob! Does it say "Their Half Penny"?

 

[robfinds]

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That's a nice one Rob! Does it say "Their Half Penny"?

Yes Shaun, first one of that type i've found.
Robert.

 

[Iron Patch]

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Super detail, but I would have left it green.

Over a period of weeks the green colour will slowly begin to re-emerge, you just have to leave the token in natural light, on a window sill.
Robert.

Sounds like you cleaned it with olive oil. Peroxide would clean it just as well, leave more color, and all in a few minutes. But to each their own.

...and that's no joke.

 

[robfinds]

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Super detail, but I would have left it green.

Over a period of weeks the green colour will slowly begin to re-emerge, you just have to leave the token in natural light, on a window sill.
Robert.

Sounds like you cleaned it with olive oil. Peroxide would clean it just as well, leave more color, and all in a few minutes. But to each their own.

...and that's no joke.

I cleaned it with with a mixture of olive oil and baby oil. It looks in the picture a lot darker than it is. I will post a picture taken in natural light tomorrow. I would though like to try peroxide in the future, you could well be right Iron Patch.
Robert.

 

[mainer]

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That thing is sweet! Congrats on a great find.

 

[robfinds]

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Super detail, but I would have left it green.

And then dyed your hair to go with it!

Those are sooooooooooooooooooooooper finds, chap!

A-Ah-AH-OOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMPPPPPPHHHHHHH!

I could do with a transplant, but I would just look stupid with a kidney on my head.

 

[Iron Patch]

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Super detail, but I would have left it green.

Over a period of weeks the green colour will slowly begin to re-emerge, you just have to leave the token in natural light, on a window sill.
Robert.

Sounds like you cleaned it with olive oil. Peroxide would clean it just as well, leave more color, and all in a few minutes. But to each their own.

...and that's no joke.

I cleaned it with with a mixture of olive oil and baby oil. It looks in the picture a lot darker than it is. I will post a picture taken in natural light tomorrow. I would though like to try peroxide in the future, you could well be right Iron Patch.
Robert.

If you only had it in the oil for a matter of a few days once it dries out it will be green again, but a long term oil soak will turn it black. The thing is if the condition was good enough to only need a few days in oil, the peroxide would have done the same in 30 minutes, and letting air dry without running it under the water would keep the same color as you dug it. I rarely use oil anymore but sometimes I find a use. (I mosty use it to cook now)

 

[hammered]

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Nice one Rob , I don't know how I missed this post earlier( another senior moment I guess .)

hammered

 

[hammered]

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Super detail, but I would have left it green.

Over a period of weeks the green colour will slowly begin to re-emerge, you just have to leave the token in natural light, on a window sill.
Robert.

Sounds like you cleaned it with olive oil. Peroxide would clean it just as well, leave more color, and all in a few minutes. But to each their own.

...and that's no joke.

I cleaned it with with a mixture of olive oil and baby oil. It looks in the picture a lot darker than it is. I will post a picture taken in natural light tomorrow. I would though like to try peroxide in the future, you could well be right Iron Patch.
Robert.

If you only had it in the oil for a matter of a few days once it dries out it will be green again, but a long term oil soak will turn it black. The thing is if the condition was good enough to only need a few days in oil, the peroxide would have done the same in 30 minutes, and letting air dry without running it under the water would keep the same color as you dug it. I rarely use oil anymore but sometimes I find a use. (I mostly use it to cook now)

Once you've gone black you never go back . But seriously IP, tell us more about peroxide soaking.

hammered

 

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Here's some pictures of the token taken this morning, in natural light. It's not as dark as it looked last night, a little darker then when it was found granted.
Robert.

 

[Iron Patch]

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Here's some pictures of the token taken this morning, in natural light. It's not as dark as it looked last night, a little darker then when it was found granted.
Robert.

As long as it's not in the oil long the color stays. The patina is pretty good on that one so it would probably take a pretty bad move to mess it up. Seeing it now either method would have done the job, but most tokens aren't that nice and peroxide is much more forgiving. I seem to recall another nice green traders token you found a couple years back.

 

[robfinds]

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Here's some pictures of the token taken this morning, in natural light. It's not as dark as it looked last night, a little darker then when it was found granted.
Robert.

As long as it's not in the oil long the color stays. The patina is pretty good on that one so it would probably take a pretty bad move to mess it up. Seeing it now either method would have done the job, but most tokens aren't that nice and peroxide is much more forgiving. I seem to recall another nice green traders token you found a couple years back.

The other one was of Henry Carier, without doubt the best condition one I've ever found.

 

[DCMatt]

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Rob,

Exceptional token! Amazing!

DCMatt

 

[CRUSADER]

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Managed to grab a few hours searching this afternoon, and the weather was great. Had a few finds, and most pleasing of all one was a 17th Century traders token (one of my favourite type of finds). The token is classed as of uncertain place of issue, perhaps Yorkshire in Dickinson's. Well this one did come up from the soil of South Yorkshire. The token was issued by Phineas Lambe and Thomas hardwick, and is dated 1666. I've started to gently clean it and it seems to be comming up well. The other two finds are a very clipped medieval hammered silver penny, and a cute hand made button 17th/18th Century.

Robert.

You have mentioned in the past how you like these, and its a great credit to you that you appreciated the social & individual history of these rare(ish) finds. Always nice to find them in such amazing condition, very done for saving another of our less appreciated pieces (in terms of values). 8) 8) Look forward to your next one

 

[robfinds]

Re: Phineas & Thomas

Managed to grab a few hours searching this afternoon, and the weather was great. Had a few finds, and most pleasing of all one was a 17th Century traders token (one of my favourite type of finds). The token is classed as of uncertain place of issue, perhaps Yorkshire in Dickinson's. Well this one did come up from the soil of South Yorkshire. The token was issued by Phineas Lambe and Thomas hardwick, and is dated 1666. I've started to gently clean it and it seems to be comming up well. The other two finds are a very clipped medieval hammered silver penny, and a cute hand made button 17th/18th Century.

Robert.

You have mentioned in the past how you like these, and its a great credit to you that you appreciated the social & individual history of these rare(ish) finds. Always nice to find them in sure amazing condition, very done for saving another of our less appreciated pieces (in terms of values). 8) 8) Look forward to your next one

Cheers Cru,