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pepperj

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Since your not selling, just commenting on the device.


Looking at the site reviews on this product-not looking great.

"I'm very disappointed, the device doesn't work properly, I did everything according to the attached instructions but there is no beeping and no ID or detector of the gold. not workink"
Got one 5 ⭐
Got 3 one ⭐
There was no spot to click zero ⭐ rating.
 

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Since your not selling, just commenting on the device.


Looking at the site reviews on this product-not looking great.

"I'm very disappointed, the device doesn't work properly, I did everything according to the attached instructions but there is no beeping and no ID or detector of the gold. not workink"
Got one 5 ⭐
Got 3 one ⭐
There was no spot to click zero ⭐ rating.
That's right, but this is just a prototype of the device, a new version has been released a long time ago. Yes, and I do not have the same outdated version as you have in the picture.
 
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pepperj

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That's right, but this is just a prototype of the device, a new version has been released a long time ago. Yes, and I do not have the same outdated version as you have in the picture.
Well you posted up the pics of the device and blanked out the device feature.
Lets just say apple/apples
No apples/oranges
 
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Well you posted up the pics of the device and blanked out the device feature.
Lets just say apple/apples
No apples/oranges
Yes, there is similarity in design, but not in content. And besides, I already wrote to you about my testing of this device.
 
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Yes, there is similarity in design, but not in content. And besides, I already wrote to you about my testing of this device.
Clarification on that statement.
You wrote on the open forum, not to me.
Testing?
I must of missed that one.
I did read a claim of finding
So let's stick to the fact apple to apples.
The manufacturer has one device.
No updated version from what is being marketed.
What version do you have then?
Let's be honest here and stick to the facts, thats all.
 
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Clarification on that statement.
You wrote on the open forum, not to me.
Testing?
I must of missed that one.
I did read a claim of finding
So let's stick to the fact apple to apples.
The manufacturer has one device.
No updated version from what is being marketed.
What version do you have then?
Let's be honest here and stick to the facts, thats all.
The version is not 200 but 1000. And then read earlier my comments on testing this device by me. Did you happen to work as an investigator before? "Crack, any nut", you seem to be no stranger to it .
 
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The version is not 200 but 1000. And then read earlier my comments on testing this device by me. Did you happen to work as an investigator before? "Crack, any nut", you seem to be no stranger to it .
So if you indeed have the 1000 why did block the pictures out?
No to investigator.
I have seen demonstration and tested another version.
The outcome was well less than stellar to say the least.
I could of gotten the same results with 2 willow sticks.
(Not to diminish the fact that witching for water is a known to work)
 

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Send one so it can be tested.

I So so so so wish this solution would put an end to the debate with these guys. But it never does. If you or they sent in a device "to be tested", and if it failed to find gemstones, then the pushback is easy and predictable :

1) The person doing the testing was using the device wrong.

2) The person doing the testing needs-more-practice

3) The person doing the testing purposefully maliciously foiled/sabotaged the test, d/t it might infringe on his metal detector sales.

4) Durned those sun-spots and lunar flares anyhow.

5) We don't need to submit to any tests, because we have the "proof" in the treasures we find.

See ? All the above are bullet proof comebacks. Their failure to test them, or the failure of said tests, will NEVER mean that : "They don't work". This is known as the logical fallacy of : "unfalsifiable". Right ? :BangHead:
 

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Since your not selling, just commenting on the device.


Looking at the site reviews on this product-not looking great.

"I'm very disappointed, the device doesn't work properly, I did everything according to the attached instructions but there is no beeping and no ID or detector of the gold. not workink"
Got one 5 ⭐
Got 3 one ⭐
There was no spot to click zero ⭐ rating.


Tsk tsk. All those poor ratings do not prove the device doesn't work. It merely means that those individual kill-joys "need more practice". I mean, if they tried for a week, then they should have tried 2 weeks. If they tried for 2 weeks, they should have tried 2 months. If they tried for 2 months, then they should have tried for 2 years. And so forth till eternity. But at NO POINT do they "not work" . See how this bullet-proof come-back works ?
 
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So if you indeed have the 1000 why did block the pictures out?
No to investigator.
I have seen demonstration and tested another version.
The outcome was well less than stellar to say the least.
I could of gotten the same results with 2 willow sticks.
(Not to diminish the fact that witching for water is a known to work)
That's it, I beg your pardon, but there is no point in continuing the conversation. Let them further "trust" innovations as an ancient way of "searching with the help of the vine." But even searches with the help of the "vine" need knowledge of the subject, experience, and more experience. It seems that in some sacred scripture there was a dictum - "Those who see, may not see, but those who hear, may not hear. But I would add that the one who is able to think suddenly cannot understand simple truths.
 

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Your opening statement to the thread is "Hello treasure hunters! I'm new to this business " admitting you know nothing about treasure hunting and yet you want to dispute and argue with people who have decades of experience and are trying to help you not waste your money..

If such a technology did exist it would have massive attention from the media. If it worked why haven't we seen news articles of massive treasures found, large silver and gold veins found with long-range detectors, we haven't because they do not work.

It is your money if you wish to waste it on something that doesn't work that is your choice.

Since "there is no point in continuing the conversation" the thread is closed.
 
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