Savannah River Point?

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Pretty sure this is a savannah River point, but would love to know for sure. This was found on the other side of a pond where my other points I posted recently were found- while digging a hole to plant a flower bulb!!
 

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After looking at your find more closely, I believe I can see where it lost some material at bottom right in pic2. That's where the other barb went I'd say--it got broken off. So the point was more symmetrical at one time and not a Ledbetter at all.
Maybe so, I can see what you mean. I feel like I can see all the points mentioned above in this one. But, I feel like Cattle Run is the closest. Its definitely unique!
 

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After looking at your find more closely, I believe I can see where it lost some material at bottom right in pic2. That's where the other barb went I'd say--it got broken off. So the point was more symmetrical at one time and not a Ledbetter at all.
Some pics of the bottom if that helps. It’s interesting too because the blade on the side with the longer shoulder has horizontal cuts or is more serrated, and the other side has them more parallel to the blade. Does that make sense? Not sure if you can tell that from the pics, but thought I’d mention.
 

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Congratulations on the find! That sure is a good looking big one!
 

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Some pics of the bottom if that helps. It’s interesting too because the blade on the side with the longer shoulder has horizontal cuts or is more serrated, and the other side has them more parallel to the blade. Does that make sense? Not sure if you can tell that from the pics, but thought I’d mention.
The side that is less serrated has seen more usage wear than the other. That could be why the barb on that side is missing. I'm certain that piece has been, and would have been re-sharpened again to extend it's usefulness. Don't let the term "broadspear" fool you. They are anatomically correct to function as hafted, cutting tools; i.e. knives. Wouldn't that explain the wear pattern on your piece? Check out this study's results (brief and to the point)..


Ironic that it's "Custer"! :laughing7:
 

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The side that is less serrated has seen more usage wear than the other. That could be why the barb on that side is missing. I'm certain that piece has been, and would have been re-sharpened again to extend it's usefulness. Don't let the term "broadspear" fool you. They are anatomically correct to function as hafted, cutting tools; i.e. knives. Wouldn't that explain the wear pattern on your piece? Check out this study's results (brief and to the point)..


Ironic that it's "Custer"! :laughing7:
Awesome, loved the study- so informative. I agree with that, it definitely looks re-sharpened, and would make sense being used as a knife.
 

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I don't know what it is but I do know I would be digging holes all around that pond!
I know! This was a big farm since the 1800s, and we know someone that would come out every time it was plowed and would find tons of artifacts. I never saw what he found, I was young, but would love to go check it out now!
 

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Interesting piece. Vanishing stem........ It is a beauty I would be doing a larger planting bed,!🤣
 

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Pretty sure this is a savannah River point, but would love to know for sure. This was found on the other side of a pond where my other points I posted recently were found- while digging a hole to plant a flower bulb!!
I'd call it Lehigh/Koens-Crispin or Cattle Run. LKC seems a bit more likely because Cattle Run's can tend to be more symmetrical. However, it would depend on where you found it. Cattle Run points tend to be found towards southern Virginia and North Carolina while LKC's are more frequently found further north. Either way, they are both considered to be part of the Late Archaic, broad blade/Savannah River tradition.
 

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Also, Lehigh/Koens-Crispin points have an affinity for Metarhyolite (rhyolite) and this point is on rhyolite that looks like the classic South Mountain MD/Pennsylvania rhyolite. To me, that really does place it as a classic Lehigh/Koens-Crispin.
 

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