Seychelles...Olivier le Vasseur buried golden goblets, coins, diamonds ......

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Hello IPUK,
"It is an interesting one as I believe that Levasseur attempted to get pardoned and was keeping a low profile. If I am not mistaken one of the requirements was that he give up his loot."

Indeed , you are correct it is an interesting one , regardless if you believe or don't believe a mass of ill gotten gains was ever hidden.

I enjoy this legend because , no one has ever really done a full on proper research on him , practically everything on the internet , is a rehash of same story , without ever bothering to check if it was true or not.
The infamous "Fiery cross of Goa" i agree , probably never existed , my opinion , someone coined it from an Indian gentleman by the name of A.K. Srimar (from memory) who wrote a book for his children in the 70's i think.
You are correct , he did apply for amnesty. Some took it up , some fled into various islands in the Indian ocean , some left for Europe.
out of an original 600 pirates , on 3 vessels , 140 left and got amnesty in the west indies from the spanish. one vessel simply got lost in a "storm" the rest stayed with la buse , then that whittled down even further.
25th jan 1724 ,John Clayton , a trusted member for La Buse arrived at St Pauls , Bourbon Island asking for amnesty on behalf of La buse and others , he was later killed at 10am , 22nd march 1724 , by 3 pirates , Daniel Agres , Richard Septon and Henri Howard.
during that year a number took up amnesty in may ....
john Bentley , jack butler , julien clous , daniel danois , leston adem , edouard jones , pierre dossier , john allen , john flacombergue , julien hordouin , samuel d'hest , francois lefevre , william martin , benjamin melly , guillaume ottroff , john perse , alexandre vre , john tea , adam johnson , edouard lahe , joseph pascal , guillaume planter.
Pirate Captain Condent , actually got 2 amnesties , the original for Bourbon , the latter for allowed to return to France.

"but as far as 'The Buzzard' burying this enormous treasure....?" or "If I am not mistaken one of the requirements was that he give up his loot."
So which is more correct , if the buzzard through original documents , appears to show a stalling tactic of not coming in , does that not suggest there may just be a grain or two of truth in the legend?
(a lot of this information is online , transcribed by a researcher and historian , its his hard work into slavery on bourbon island that has made it known what information can be found , if prepared to look. )
Even to the actual journey of the Cabo through the storm , in great detail was documented and told by the viceroy himself can be found on the internet.
As for the Buzzard from birth to capture , thats for another day.
Bananas.



Hello Monsignor Bananas

I am glad that you are looking at this objectively and not letting things cloud your judgment.

It is fair of you two raise the two separate sentences that I made regarding whether I believe Levasseur buried a treasure or not. If he did, which seems very possible and real, I do not believe it was anywhere as big as imagined and certainly not a constructed maze of cryptic clues. He seems to have had a few decent scores during his piratical career, so the chances are he was very wealthy. It would stand to reason that as part of his pardon the authorities would look to retrieve as much of the loot as possible because from a practical point of view, what was stopping anyone fancying their chances of becoming a pirate or buccaneer and then seeking a pardon after making their fortune?

I shall hold my hands up and say that my research into this particular legend has been elementary due to the fact, even though I am curious about it, that I believe it would take too much of my time to devote to this single subject and there is other things I am working on. I commend you as it seems you have done some in-depth research and know more of the story than most.

Whatever the situation, 'The Buzzard' seems like an interesting chap...


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Hello IPUK

Indeed that is 100% true for many it all too easy to deride such people and dismiss them as mere Crackpots, even with all levels of society, to bother to take the time to really see what they are researching. Not just every day people but even academics who became one by their credentials not by questioning things but by maintaining the status quo . These people who do this are content of spending their lives as Drones, as long as they are told, what to think, when to think, when to eat, What to eat, when to sleep when to go to work, When to Crap, when to breed, as long as they have access to the consumer carrots offered to them accepted as the social norm. Their whole lives have all been programed for them from the cradle to the grave. They feel safe in their little world not having to question anything....

And if you look around on this Forum, you will everyone who is here reading this in their own way questioning, seeking answers....As hardluck once said "We flee to forums as refugees first from gods at the altar telling us what to think to the new God the TV that tells us how to think? Ironic is it not they call it TV programing? Crow saw that years ago...

There are others out there....Who Question those things, who dare to dream to push the boundaries of knowledge, who dare to dream free of shackles of what is expected of thus....the Norm, the status Quo set by whom?

Well you may take heart its the day dreamers that changed the world my friend....Those who will question what if? And if being called a dreamer them I am proud to be one... Better to be a bright spark of inspiration than the living dead free of opinion and thought. Plenty of them can be seen on any subway is it not?

And if we look a the world changing successes of people through history we are in fact in good company. One of the reasons why yourself, myself and others who refuse to be that drone, but to live , question and experience, the Mindy candy we are all secretly addicted to.

Amy

Hi CI

:notworthy:

Couldn't add anything more to what you have put so precisely and succinctly.

Other than to say: first I was one of 'them'......now I am trying my utmost to be one of 'you'....:thumbsup:


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Hello Banana Skin Slippers and IPUK

I think the best avenue of research into this story who be in the following addresses

For the Indian Ocean:

Lorient :
Centre d’archives de la marine en océan Indien dont le fonds de la Compagnie des Indes
Bibliothèque spécialisée dans le domaine maritime
Salle de lecture de ? places
4 km linéaires d’archives conservées
Accroissement stoppé depuis 2000
27 000 ouvrages

For the Atlantic Ocean:

Brest :
Centre historique des archives de la marine en Atlantique et dans le Pacifique
Bibliothèque spécialisée dans le domaine maritime
Salle de lecture de 20 places
10 km linéaires d’archives conservées
Accroissement de 375 ml par an
42 900 ouvrages
650 lecteurs par an

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That's good information there CI.

Thank you.

But, I wanted to ask you whether you'd ever come across that story about the Pacific Ocean island where the English pirate ship was burnt and the crew killed with apparently their loot still on the ship as the iron from the ship was more important to the islanders. I have come across some references where the king of the island apparently recovered the treasure in the early 1990s and sold it to a prominent Japanese businessman...

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That's good information there CI.

Thank you.

But, I wanted to ask you whether you'd ever come across that story about the Pacific Ocean island where the English pirate ship was burnt and the crew killed with apparently their loot still on the ship as the iron from the ship was more important to the islanders. I have come across some references where the king of the island apparently recovered the treasure in the early 1990s and sold it to a prominent Japanese businessman...

IUP

Hello IPUK That is rather old News....

I think your thinking of the Port-au-Prince?

The people of Foa Island, a member of the Ha’apai Island group in the Kingdom of Tonga, was involved in the discovery of a 200-year-old ship wreck found by a local diver and believed to be the legendary Port-au-Prince. The Port-au-Prince was an English ship of war, sailing through Tongan waters in 1806 in search of whales. She was seized by Chief Fīnau Ulukālala of Ha’apai and his people, who killed most of the crew, and, according to locals, left treasure aboard to sink with the ship.

“This is a significant find for the people of Tonga. This ship wreck will reveal a great deal of information about the history of Tonga and specifically the Ha’apai Islands,” says Sandra Fifita, Tourism Marketing Officer from the Ministry of Commerce and Tourism.

The arrival of the Port-au-Prince in 1806 resulted in one of the most valuable historical documents of pre-Christian life in the Pacific Islands. William Mariner; a young deck-hand on the Port-au-Prince, was taken by Chief Fīnau Ulukālala to live with him and his people for four years. On returning to England, he wrote a detailed account of his experience.

“The ship wreck is also an exciting opportunity for diving in Tonga. If it proves to be the Port-au-Prince then we may have treasure hunters and Tongan locals clambering to find the remains of years of successful pirate raids against the enemies of the British.

“Legend tells that the Chief salvaged the iron, which was of great value in Tonga at the time, and then sunk the ship and all her bounty. It is believed that a considerable amount of copper, silver and gold is resting with the wreck, along with a number of silver candlesticks, incense pans, crucifixes and chalices,” says Fifita.

The ship wreck was discovered by Tevita Moala who has always kept an eye out for the ship when diving in the area. Local diving expert Darren Rice from Matafonua Lodge Resort has since contacted the Greenwich Maritime Museum and Marine Archaeological Society which has confirmed the age of the wreck due to copper sheathing found at the site. Copper sheathing was only used between 1780 and 1850 to combat shipworm and marine weeds. Local divers will now map out the area for diving and record the data to send to Greenwich Maritime Museum and Marine Archaeological Society.

Here is pictures of the shipwreck below.

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Hi Amy

Wasn't referring to the location and discovery of the ship...8-)

Was asking about the gold that the Tongan King allegedly recovered and sold to Royoichi Sasakawa in about 1992..

The Japanese chap passed away in 1995 and was one of Japan's richest men. He was also a war criminal with a penchant for recovering treasures...


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Hi Amy

Wasn't referring to the location and discovery of the ship...8-)

Was asking about the gold that the Tongan King allegedly recovered and sold to Royoichi Sasakawa in about 1992..

The Japanese chap passed away in 1995 and was one of Japan's richest men. He was also a war criminal with a penchant for recovering treasures...


IUP

Perhaps that was one of dodgy deals done with the "Bank of the Pacific" The king short of Money sold off some of Tongans gold reserves? Royoichi Sasakawa was an honorary council for Tonga at the time?

Amy
 

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Before anyone gets all into searching for the treasure. It may be wise to confirm a treasure might be likely. As in first find out what he was in possesion of when he was caught. We should also consider who he associated with. Perhaps someone got wealthy or become more powerful after his death. One would assume he couldnt of hide his treasure alone. So someone else would know of its location on his death

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Good hunting and good luck to those who is seeking this treasure.


I'm afraid that there is a fair amount that has been added to the story over the years and it is very difficult to try and disseminate the details correctly.
Cruise-Wilkins junior has tried to claim on several occasions that he was "near" the treasure or even had "found it", but, of course, it was always a case of almost.

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TREASURE HAS BEEN FOUND THIS 2019 IN RODRIGUES ISLAND

Does some one have the list of tresaure that has been lost in the indian ocean near mauritius
 

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am looking for old reading maps or any sign for treausre lost on mauritius island please send me links
 

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They found a small treasure box apparently in a cave in Rodrigues Island, but its definitely not Levasseur's treasure. No evidence whatsoever that it is his.
Still pretty cool if its for real, and if the Government showcases it.
 

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