✅ SOLVED Some Type of Spur?

[BuckleBoy]

Hello All,

I dug this in an 1850-1910 site. Obviously used to be straight but now plow bent. I?ve dug the end piece before which has a slit and an iron pin and the remains of what looks to be an iron rowel. Id always suspected that the end piece went directly into some sort of fitting in the boot heel but never seen the whole piece before now. Seems odd for the heel to have come with the brass tube fitted in, and spanning the whole length of the sole, yet possible I guess. Can anyone find a patent or more information about a type of spur that fit into the whole sole of the shoe, and its date range? Really cool piece, if thats what it is. The type is not listed in any of my spur books.

 

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[Tony in SC]

Maybe external tension or brake band?

 

[BuckleBoy]

Maybe external tension or brake band?

are those usually iron? This piece is all brass except the ?rowel.?

 

[villagenut]

Could be a hinge type attachment rather than a rowel.....

 

[GoldieLocks]

Why do you think this is part of a spur?

Ok, now I see it here
https://www.ebay.com/itm/334156602568?hash=item4dcd491cc8:g:lgcAAOSwYhdhSqM2

 

[DCMatt]

My first thought was Victorian hinged bangle bracelet. But it seems crudely made for a piece of jewelry.

I believe these were popular well into the 20th C.

 

[BuckleBoy]

My first thought was Victorian hinged bangle bracelet. But it seems crudely made for a piece of jewelry.

I believe these were popular well into the 20th C.

hello Matt! That?s a great guess. I agree it?s crudely made for such a purpose?esp with the seam on one side of the brass where it?s folded.The other pieces of these I?ve dug were just the end cap piece with the slit and iron rowel type thingy. Strangely the slit is off-center. You?d think it?d be right in the center if a spur. No clue what this is but I have 4-5 examples now and this is the most complete. All dug in sites from 1850-1910

 

[DCMatt]

hello Matt! That?s a great guess. I agree it?s crudely made for such a purpose?esp with the seam on one side of the brass where it?s folded.The other pieces of these I?ve dug were just the end cap piece with the slit and iron rowel type thingy. Strangely the slit is off-center. You?d think it?d be right in the center if a spur. No clue what this is but I have 4-5 examples now and this is the most complete. All dug in sites from 1850-1910

I think the brass is too thin to be any part of a spur. 4 or 5 examples and the fact that it is crudely made indicts a utilitarian/throw-away item. Maybe something to do with livestock?

If you extrapolate the piece into a circle, about what size would it be?

 

[releventchair]

That's an oddy....

Only ponderings, not knowing what it is....
The "rowel" area hints of a hinged pewter mug hinge. Though it is not.
India teapots , oilpots could be hinged similar , but no examples come up on a quick search.

The curved part was rolled/folded for strength of the light material. Not the same , but similar to some tin and other material cup handles. And other handles.

 

[desertexplorer]

Your find looks to be a Bourdon tube which is the main component in air and steam pressure gauges. They come in all sort of sizes but the design is basically the same, a hollow tube in an arc shape. I've found them on old farmsteads where milking machines, steam engines old steam boilers were used. They've been in use since the late 1800's.

 

[releventchair]

Your find looks to be a Bourdon tube which is the main component in air and steam pressure gauges. They come in all sort of sizes but the design is basically the same, a hollow tube in an arc shape. I've found them on old farmsteads where milking machines, steam engines old steam boilers were used. They've been in use since the late 1800's.
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Bravo!!

 

[DCMatt]

Your find looks to be a Bourdon tube which is the main component in air and steam pressure gauges. They come in all sort of sizes but the design is basically the same, a hollow tube in an arc shape. I've found them on old farmsteads where milking machines, steam engines old steam boilers were used. They've been in use since the late 1800's.

Wow! Just WOW! What an ID! I gotta admit I would have NEVER gone in that direction. T-net "What is it?" contributors do it again!

 

[BuckleBoy]

I think the brass is too thin to be any part of a spur. 4 or 5 examples and the fact that it is crudely made indicts a utilitarian/throw-away item. Maybe something to do with livestock?

If you extrapolate the piece into a circle, about what size would it be?

Will see what size circle it is when I get back from work, because that attachment you listed is certainly close, and probably it was bent circular not plow strike as I’d assumed

 

[BuckleBoy]

Your find looks to be a Bourdon tube which is the main component in air and steam pressure gauges. They come in all sort of sizes but the design is basically the same, a hollow tube in an arc shape. I've found them on old farmsteads where milking machines, steam engines old steam boilers were used. They've been in use since the late 1800's.
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OMG that’s it! You totally nailed this! One hell of an ID!

 

[MountOlymp]

Hello All,

I dug this in an 1850-1910 site. Obviously used to be straight but now plow bent. I?ve dug the end piece before which has a slit and an iron pin and the remains of what looks to be an iron rowel. Id always suspected that the end piece went directly into some sort of fitting in the boot heel but never seen the whole piece before now. Seems odd for the heel to have come with the brass tube fitted in, and spanning the whole length of the sole, yet possible I guess. Can anyone find a patent or more information about a type of spur that fit into the whole sole of the shoe, and its date range? Really cool piece, if thats what it is. The type is not listed in any of my spur books.

Thats not a spur from a sole, if its q spur then its part of the saddle where the foot goes in