Stone effigy

JustMeCMA

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How’s this for proof that this stone is not natural but man made????
The human face has certain proportions and mathematically you can use the proportions to sculpt the human face in the next to last photo there is a simple human face proportions picture guide and in the last photo u can see where I have applied the mathematics and arrived at the mathematically correct proportion numbers which should mean that this stone is not a natural occurrence or just another stone that if u squint ur eyes and imagine u can make out a human face this is a mathematically Proportioned stone face! So feel free to give ur input!
 

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That is the same rock you posted in September and nothing has changed, it's not an effigy, not an artifact, it is just natural rock, it is your imagination and pareidolia.

pareidolia
[ˌperēˈdōlēə]

NOUN
  1. the perception of apparently significant patterns or recognizable images, especially faces, in random or accidental arrangements of shapes and lines.
 
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That is the same rock you posted in September and nothing has changed, it's not an effigy, not an artifact, it is just natural rock, it is your imagination and pareidolia.

pareidolia
[ˌperēˈdōlēə]

NOUN
  1. the perception of apparently significant patterns or recognizable images, especially faces, in random or accidental arrangements of shapes and lines.
Then show me another pareidolia with correct mathematical proportions ... apparently means seemIngly ...Significant means notable and meaningful... Pattern means design ....random means made, done ,Happening, or chosen without method or conscious decision Or Unsystematic ......So that definition tells me that a pareidolia is something that resembles something else like a face for instance But only To the extent that it appears to be and is not done by a certain chosen method or any conscious decision therefore it should not and will not meet the criteria for the thing it appears to be. Now in the Case of a face there are mathmatics that have to be used in order to get the correct proportion for a face based of size and feature placement this stone meets those given proportions and formulas and bc of that this is why it can’t be a pareidolia bc a pareidolia by the definition u so nicely gave me above means to appear to be Something but doesnt actually meet all the requirments aka the math that makes this stone face mathematically correct! How did u comprehend the definition????
 

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Sorry, the math means nothing, it is just a rock. Also, on your measurements, you are guessing where the measurement points are based on the picture in your mind that it is an effigy.
 
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J, you say it's a face...OK, then it's a face.

Why is it necessary that others agree with you?
 

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JustmeCMA, how long have you been studying, hunting, and collecting Indian artifacts?
 
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J, you say it's a face...OK, then it's a face.

Why is it necessary that others agree with you?
It’s not I was asked in a different post not n these exact words ...to show Something supporting why it was man made
 

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Okay wow now show me the math that makes it the correct proportions of a human face based of the size and location of the features bc that’s what I asked
Nah, you can do the math.
 

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Sorry, the math means nothing, it is just a rock. Also, on your measurements, you are guessing where the measurement points are based on the picture in your mind that it is an effigy.
I'm with Treasure Hunter on this one, his debunking is spot on....
 
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and why do u believe it to be spot on if u don’t mind me asking🤔
 

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JustmeCMA, how long have you been studying, hunting, and collecting Indian artifacts?
JustmeCMA, I ask again, maybe you missed it the first time, how long have you been studying, hunting, and collecting Indian artifacts?
 
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JustmeCMA, I ask again, maybe you missed it the first time, how long have you been studying, hunting, and collecting Indian artifacts?
Regardless I thought this website allowed ppl of all levels of experience and education or am I missed informed on that
 

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Regardless I thought this website allowed ppl of all levels of experience and education or am I missed informed on that
It does, not sure why you are offended about asking how long you have been studying and collecting Indian artifacts.

There are over 2500 years of Indian artifact knowledge and experience here.
 
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It does, not sure why you would be offended about asking how long you have been studying and collecting Indian artifacts.

There are over 2500 years of Indian artifact knowledge and experience here.
I wasn’t offended I just thought u where gonna poke Fun bc thats the vibe I have felt from others not saying that’s how they meant it to be but that’s how it made me feel honestly I have collected as a child with my grandfathers family but not done any searching till recently I have no formal education in this area But I did take the time to try and see if I could show reason as to Why it was manmade
 

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I wasn’t offended I just thought u where gonna poke Fun bc thats the vibe I have felt from others not saying that’s how they meant it to be but that’s how it made me feel honestly I have collected as a child with my grandfathers family but not done any searching till recently I have no formal education in this area But I did take the time to try and see if I could show reason as to Why it was manmade
Was not trying to poke fun at all, was trying to understand your experience.

There is nothing wrong with being a new hunter, we were all new at one point, there are many members here with decades of experience that can help teach new hunters if they are willing to learn.
 

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Two things seem in play here. To see the images, pareidolia, as has been established by others. The other thing is the unwillingness to acknowledge that it is a mistake to believe these are effigies, despite the opinions of highly experienced artifact hunters/collectors. I’ve been at it for some 65 years, and I know these are not effigies. And that other thing may be the Dunning-Kruger effect, which has become very common in this era, as more and more folks think they know more than established science. People invent entirely new rationalizations, which most of the time are very easy to recognize, except for the individual advancing the incorrect observations. Classic Dunning-Kruger effect, which education can overcome, but many are simply not interested in learning.
 

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