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Need help with this map... to me it looks like 3 hills, a water source like a creek, then 1 hill. on my property I have 3 hills to the west, a large creek, then 1 hill on the east. Unsure if Native American or what... Thank you:hello2: 20160912_155432.jpg 20160912_160255.jpg 20160912_160555.jpg 20160912_160916.jpg
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When you say how I feel or think really means its how you feel and think Dude this site is free to opinion good or bad if you don't like it leave or don't post!!! If you know all the answers why ask ??????????????????????Then speak to people like you are so much wiser then everyone that you start preaching!!!! Do you have any idea who I think I am!!!!!!
 

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Sedimentary geologist and invertebrate paleontologist here. Although ichnofossils (trace fossils) are not my specialty (I work with foraminifera and diatoms) my masters thesis advisor is a world renowned, incredibly well published trace fossil expert. I picked up quite a bit of his knowledge as a TA for his invertebrate courses at the university.

In my opinion, the markings/grooves on the sandstone look to be trace fossils, worm burrows specifically. The OP stated that there was no way they could be worm burrow because the sandstone sample is "hard stone". Trace fossils are preserved in sedimentary rocks, typically sandstones and mudstones. The sediment is soft when the organisms live within it. However, during event deposits (underwater landslides, etc), sufficient material can be deposited over the top of these soft sediments causing a number of things to occur. First, compaction of the soft sediment from the weight of the overburden; second, dewatering of the soft sediment; and lastly, this is occurring in an anoxic environment, essentially entombing these soft bodied creatures in an environment that leads to extremely slow decomposition, thus preserving the void spaces in which they lived.

To say that there is no way they are worm burrows because it is a 'hard stone' is ludicrous. How else would trace fossils be preserved? Why do we find the vast majority of mollusk, benthic foraminifera and many other aquatic fossils in solid rock? Why? Because the sediment composing that rock was soft when those organisms lived within it.

Of course, there is always the possibility that it's a fossilized chicken nugget from the late Miocene.

Is this a treasure map also?

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RE: cerF comment
HUGE DIFFERENCE
Not even Close and Nothing even close to this stone.
You Misquote Darlin'... I said It is Hard stone which EXPLAIN the "Feathering" Like activity an individual pointed out so he or she concluded Worm burrows in a Magnified photo of the "Map Stone" However photos displayed are the stone in its true form. Indeed it has been carved by human hands. UNLIKE the photo you have posted of these teeny tiny worm groves. Not at all. The groves in this stone are soooo much larger and were purposely carved.
 

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I said Don't you know who I think I am refers to you dumb A### 25 mins from Kingston I think we will have that beer HA1
 

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can you post a plus size image? meaning the one you post is kind a small
If you are talking about what I posted please go to the treasure signs and symbols treads for bigger picture. I used someone else picture. There are many pictures that can be viewed.

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The diameter of the worm burrows are of no importance. There are many different ichnospecies that leave varying sizes of worm burrows that range vastly in diameter. Secondly, your photos show no point of reference for scale. Lastly, what makes you convinced that these markings were made by human hands? Is your map stone made out of sandstone? Is the geology in the area where this map stone found also sandstone rich?
 

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Sedimentary geologist and invertebrate paleontologist here. Although ichnofossils (trace fossils) are not my specialty (I work with foraminifera and diatoms) my masters thesis advisor is a world renowned, incredibly well published trace fossil expert. I picked up quite a bit of his knowledge as a TA for his invertebrate courses at the university.

In my opinion, the markings/grooves on the sandstone look to be trace fossils, worm burrows specifically. The OP stated that there was no way they could be worm burrow because the sandstone sample is "hard stone". Trace fossils are preserved in sedimentary rocks, typically sandstones and mudstones. The sediment is soft when the organisms live within it. However, during event deposits (underwater landslides, etc), sufficient material can be deposited over the top of these soft sediments causing a number of things to occur. First, compaction of the soft sediment from the weight of the overburden; second, dewatering of the soft sediment; and lastly, this is occurring in an anoxic environment, essentially entombing these soft bodied creatures in an environment that leads to extremely slow decomposition, thus preserving the void spaces in which they lived.

To say that there is no way they are worm burrows because it is a 'hard stone' is ludicrous. How else would trace fossils be preserved? Why do we find the vast majority of mollusk, benthic foraminifera and many other aquatic fossils in solid rock? Why? Because the sediment composing that rock was soft when those organisms lived within it.

Of course, there is always the possibility that it's a fossilized chicken nugget from the late Miocene.

Is this a treasure map also?

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It would be hard for me to say on your pictures exactly what you have.in order to make a claim you need to see it as a whole. Using just a spot on a rock does not give enough information. It's has a lot to do with the over all shape of her stone along with the depression and etching. Have you done any work with ancient sign and symbolism? The use of a stones material make up is not the important part. What museum did you say you worked for? Maybe I could sent you some pieces to study.

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MD guy, you are in a great spot for the French Jesuit work it will be found around a native American settlements or old missions start looking for yourself

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Bob, it's been nothing but amazing finds in this area, it always produces non stop. Ur right.
 

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that pic with the cent for size is definitely a treasure map, hand carved for sure and also early porn I see a nacked lady, it is also an early lay out of Washington DC or is that Philly?
 

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who ever said it is a 3" rock??? it is more likely than not the final piece to a puzzel and/or the "X" will lead us to yet another stone, tree, rock, map, treasure. READ and Learn. Does not hurt to think "OUTSIDE" the box either.

I said it's a 3" rock. Your holding it in your hand in the picture. So now you have to go around picking up gravel, glue them together until you find a tree that hasn't been there for hundreds of years now and your rich?
 

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Scrappy Darlin, think you should take a look at the photos in my new post. Not worms... sorry for you, HAPPY for me.

Sedimentary geologist and invertebrate paleontologist here. Although ichnofossils (trace fossils) are not my specialty (I work with foraminifera and diatoms) my masters thesis advisor is a world renowned, incredibly well published trace fossil expert. I picked up quite a bit of his knowledge as a TA for his invertebrate courses at the university.

In my opinion, the markings/grooves on the sandstone look to be trace fossils, worm burrows specifically. The OP stated that there was no way they could be worm burrow because the sandstone sample is "hard stone". Trace fossils are preserved in sedimentary rocks, typically sandstones and mudstones. The sediment is soft when the organisms live within it. However, during event deposits (underwater landslides, etc), sufficient material can be deposited over the top of these soft sediments causing a number of things to occur. First, compaction of the soft sediment from the weight of the overburden; second, dewatering of the soft sediment; and lastly, this is occurring in an anoxic environment, essentially entombing these soft bodied creatures in an environment that leads to extremely slow decomposition, thus preserving the void spaces in which they lived.

To say that there is no way they are worm burrows because it is a 'hard stone' is ludicrous. How else would trace fossils be preserved? Why do we find the vast majority of mollusk, benthic foraminifera and many other aquatic fossils in solid rock? Why? Because the sediment composing that rock was soft when those organisms lived within it.

Of course, there is always the possibility that it's a fossilized chicken nugget from the late Miocene.

Is this a treasure map also?

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Hand etching by worms is my new theory...

I'm just joking around in good fun. Don't take what I say to heart.

Good luck and I hope it's a map that leads you to something great. Just be careful it's not one of those multi-dimensional maps. I've heard about those
 

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I don't have the ambition to read 12 pages about a rock, but here's my take. The whole point of a treasure map is to find treasure SOMEWHERE ELSE. Why on earth would you think a "treasure map rock" would be left to find treasure at the same spot? Sorry, you can dream all you want, but it's just a rock. And even if it is a magic "treasure map rock", it wasn't made to find treasure there.
 

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I don't have the ambition to read 12 pages about a rock, but here's my take. The whole point of a treasure map is to find treasure SOMEWHERE ELSE. Why on earth would you think a "treasure map rock" would be left to find treasure at the same spot? Sorry, you can dream all you want, but it's just a rock. And even if it is a magic "treasure map rock", it wasn't made to find treasure there.
Well FreeBird, why did they leave large monuments on mountain sides. Read up before you step off that cliff. Have you ever heard of Superstitious Mountain. You guys like making a fools of yourselves making comments on subjects you know nothing about. This Web site is called Treasure Net. There are plenty forms of treasure. You can be ship wreck hunter, coin shooter, or a cache hunter. And many other forms. This falls under cache hunting and artifacts. Those guys will argue. Like those naysayers they are uninformed. The only thing I can come up with why you naysayers are here is to suppress knowledge. I'm keeping up with who you are.

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Please keep the insults and politics out of the thread, both violate our rules...

OP requested help reading his "map", members disagreeing that it is a map does not violate any TreasureNet rules. Once a member hits "enter" the thread no longer belongs to the original poster, it belongs to TreasureNet..

Bobwoodsbob FYI, making threats, even implied is a sure fire way to earn a looooooooooooooooooooooong time out. Highly recommend members do not threaten other members...
 

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I have enjoyed reading this post. I think it's good that the mods didn't stop it. It may always remain a mystery but I will admit that I have found similar rocks along a creek on my property so I personally believe that those are worm markings but it is interesting to learn about how ancient people may have carved maps.
 

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Mod you talking about the principal statement. That was metaphorically speaking. I hope they are mature enough to know that

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