Your reaction and long rambling monologue says "plenty" about yourself.
While it appears you have stalking me across the forums. You drove me off Yamashita forum. I post else where your up my ass again. Are you in love with me or do have some beef with me?
What really annoys me is the way you write. You might be nice guy in person but you come across as pumped up egotistical condescending know it all wanting talk down to people.
Either you do it intentionally for the love of an needless argument or you use forums for a power trip you do not have in real life.
Its really grating and painful....Pain I do no have time for this crap because seriously I have life.
I suggest you get one too.
Mal, I do not recall posting to specifically target any topics of yours, or you, in the past. I am sorry you feel this way about views that dissent from yours (that someone taking a contrary view, is therefore "up your @ss" and "doesn't have a life", etc....
I saw the thread title "Manila galleons" and chimed in with my opinion that they were not laden with gold and silver on their return voyage (aside from a pay-box @ the captain's bunk). And perhaps if ones could be dove on, that were on their east-bound leg, then sure: Silver and/or gold. And sure: There's other reasons to wreck-dive, other than silver and gold. The porcelains shown in these pix are cool, and may have collector value ?
Again: Sorry for upsetting you. I do not recall you from any past topic (Yamashita, etc....). But please be aware, that forums are for pro/con discussions. So.... some people might have a different view than yours
...thousands of phoney stories made thousands of dive shops ....... the stupid BS stories and scams yes some are true but majority just stupid ....so tom attitude must be understood ....checks and balances
When those galleons left Mexico, coming your way, they would have had their $ to make the purchases. Silk, wax, porcelains, fabric, etc..... When they were on the return voyage, skirting past Alta CA on their way back to Mexico, they would only have had the goods. Not the silver.
There was a case, back in the 1950s I believe, where one of the wreck sites was actually found on a remote stretch of Baja CA. Evidenced by massive amounts of crockery/porcelain that would wash up on the beach after any beach-erosion storms. So they studied it long and hard. They also found lots of globs of wax (woohoo). Any fabrics and silks would have been long gone. But never any silver and gold. Go figure: They took that to make their purchases. So on their return voyage, would have had little to no silver/gold.
As for the potential over your way: Good luck !
Heh Tom... The "woohoo" to the wax. Did you know that wax was a high value item in those days.
Heh Tom... The "woohoo" to the wax.
Did you know that wax was a high value item in those days....
.... Spice was far the most valuable, selling for more than 100 times the purchase price, especially peppercorn, then Ginger, and Cinnamon. Who wants a load of wax or peppercorn these days? I seem to remember a run on silver in Europe, as the Chinese valued silver, not gold, for trading.
Posters are correct on the direction of the voyage, if you came back from the Orient, and had anything but spice on board, it was a big problem for you with your investors.
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