I found them around 50 yds apart in a camp I stumbled into. Last spring I found a CSA button, 2 confederate cavalry buttons, some eagle buttons, and a multitude of mini balls. These finds were in no way easy because I've dug tons of trash to find the treasure. I'll be hunting here for years, and I have very great expectations. Both shanks are gone on these two but I'll take'm anyway. I got these on video that I'll post later.