The Treasure of Captain William Kidd.

[ISmellGold]

Not yet, but I have it. I just need to figure out which map case I stored it in. I should be able to find it before the weekend. I only have a few more places left to check.

Well get on it.
I gota see the Great Captain Kidd Map for The Treasure in New England,
Your holding me up!!
😁

 

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[Old Bookaroo]

Not yet, but I have it. I just need to figure out which map case I stored it in. I should be able to find it before the weekend. I only have a few more places left to check.

I look forward to seeing the map - thank you for searching for it.

Meanwhile, here is Snow with the treasure and treasure chest he uncovered:

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Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo

 

[Randawg72]

Islands where Kidd's treasure is Not.
(In my opinion).

Here are three popular suspects for the interpretation of Kidd's Island based on shape
Remember that an island's shape was difficult to estimate accurately in the 17th Century.
Juan Fernandez, and Bonaire are shown upside-down for comparison.

 

[ISmellGold]

Any actual "Kidd Maps" are probably actual charts of Islands possibly ripped out of log/map books not crude drawn facimiles.. Although the facimiles may provide clues?
You have to figure that paper was probably at a premium in those days.
Any actual treasure map was probably on the parchment of actual map logs/books or the actual page itself ripped out of the book.

If not, Probably some Joe Shmo Joke.

😁

 

[NEExplorers]

Hi NEExplorers,
This was your last post on this thread. Eight days ago.
Were you ever able to find that map you mentioned?

I found it! Edward Rowe Snow, a New England author, was well-known for writing about pirate history, legends, and lore in the region. He also hosted a radio show. Among his intriguing items was this reproduction of a map he claimed led to Captain Kidd's treasure, which he believed was buried somewhere in New England. He gave the map to some of his radio show listeners.

While I never took it too seriously, my love for maps led me to purchase it years ago. Some suggest that this is actually a reproduction of a 1699 map of Cocos Island. Though I think it’s likely just another false Kidd map, I’ve always believed in leaving no stone unturned. So, here it is for your viewing pleasure!

I realize this isn’t the best image, so later today I’ll try setting up proper lighting and using a better camera to capture a clearer and sharper photo.

 

[NEExplorers]

I’ve compiled quite a list of legends and lore about where Captain Kidd supposedly buried treasure in New England. In Massachusetts, there’s even an island named after him, inspired by a local legend. One fascinating story involves "Kidd's Letter," which was discovered in a small cave in Massachusetts. I have a booklet published in 1850 by the family who found it, and it includes the full letter along with all its clues to the treasure’s location.

Rhode Island is also rich with stories of Kidd’s hidden treasure, with numerous caves and secretive spots tied to his exploits. An 1883 map of Newport features a "Pirate’s Cave" marked as a rumored location for Kidd’s treasure, and there’s an early 1900s map of Jamestown that highlights a similar spot. According to local lore, Kidd may have hidden his treasure there before visiting his friend, Captain Paine.

I worked as an assistant development producer on a TV show project centered around lost treasures in New England. During that time, I gathered a substantial amount of treasure related data and, in some cases, copies of historical materials. At some point, I plan to share a comprehensive list of all the known Kidd treasure legends across New England. Stay tuned!

 

[ISmellGold]

I found it! Edward Rowe Snow, a New England author, was well-known for writing about pirate history, legends, and lore in the region. He also hosted a radio show. Among his intriguing items was this reproduction of a map he claimed led to Captain Kidd's treasure, which he believed was buried somewhere in New England. He gave the map to some of his radio show listeners.

While I never took it too seriously, my love for maps led me to purchase it years ago. Some suggest that this is actually a reproduction of a 1699 map of Cocos Island. Though I think it’s likely just another false Kidd map, I’ve always believed in leaving no stone unturned. So, here it is for your viewing pleasure!

I realize this isn’t the best image, so later today I’ll try setting up proper lighting and using a better camera to capture a clearer and sharper photo.

I don't think that is a New England Map..S

Skull & Crossbones
🤣
Probably a fake, but who knows?

 

[ISmellGold]

Rhode Island is also rich with stories of Kidd’s hidden treasure, with numerous caves and secretive spots tied to his exploits. An 1883 map of Newport features a "Pirate’s Cave" marked as a rumored location for Kidd’s treasure, and there’s an early 1900s map of Jamestown that highlights a similar spot. According to local lore, Kidd may have hidden his treasure there before visiting his friend, Captain Paine.

I am more interested in Rhode Island "Kidd"History more than anything.
By my calculation if there is something somewhat large still out there buried somewhat associated with "Kidd" it's most likely in Rhode Island somewhere.
I personally like East Greenwich as a starting spot.
The Treasure Of The Two Frenchmen

 

[NEExplorers]

I don't think that is a New England Map..S


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Skull & Crossbones
🤣
Probably a fake, but who knows?

Edward Rowe Snow was a story teller. I always thought it was something he made up, or a real map he thought looked like a New England Island he knew of, so he assumed it was the same island.

The caves marked on the maps I shared are real and genuine locations, but there’s no evidence to suggest any connection to pirates. The names are simply fun, colorful labels for fascinating New England landmarks that have been popular attractions for hundreds of years.

 

[Randawg72]

I found it! Edward Rowe Snow, a New England author, was well-known for writing about pirate history, legends, and lore in the region. He also hosted a radio show. Among his intriguing items was this reproduction of a map he claimed led to Captain Kidd's treasure, which he believed was buried somewhere in New England. He gave the map to some of his radio show listeners.

While I never took it too seriously, my love for maps led me to purchase it years ago. Some suggest that this is actually a reproduction of a 1699 map of Cocos Island. Though I think it’s likely just another false Kidd map, I’ve always believed in leaving no stone unturned. So, here it is for your viewing pleasure!

I realize this isn’t the best image, so later today I’ll try setting up proper lighting and using a better camera to capture a clearer and sharper photo.

Hi NEExplorers,
The 'H.P. Hood and sons dairy products' text tells us this is a fantasy promo map. It does resemble Cocos, although Kidd wasn't anywhere near there in 1699. Also the writing: "Route of Adventure's Prize from Madagascar" suggests the Indian Ocean. Thank you for posting it.

 

[Old Bookaroo]

I don't think that is a New England Map..S


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Skull & Crossbones
🤣
Probably a fake, but who knows?

Thank you for posting that! I've been collecting "treasure maps and charts" for a great many years, and this is new to me.

Your Cocos Island suggestion (not be confused with the Cocos Keeling Island(s)) is a good one:

Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo

 

[Randawg72]

Rhode Island is also rich with stories of Kidd’s hidden treasure, with numerous caves and secretive spots tied to his exploits. An 1883 map of Newport features a "Pirate’s Cave" marked as a rumored location for Kidd’s treasure, and there’s an early 1900s map of Jamestown that highlights a similar spot. According to local lore, Kidd may have hidden his treasure there before visiting his friend, Captain Paine.

I worked as an assistant development producer on a TV show project centered around lost treasures in New England. During that time, I gathered a substantial amount of treasure related data and, in some cases, copies of historical materials. At some point, I plan to share a comprehensive list of all the known Kidd treasure legends across New England. Stay tuned!

Good stuff NEE,
I can't wait to see what else you got.

Randawg.

 

[NEExplorers]

Good stuff NEE,
I can't wait to see what else you got.

Randawg.

I plan to start posting the material in 2025. Sorry for the delay, but at the moment, I’m focused on preparing for an expedition to a cave deep in the Sierra Madre Oriental of Mexico. This cave isn’t rich in gold, but it holds treasures of another kind: it’s one of the most significant deposits of Pleistocene megafaunal remains in the region. Additionally, it contains a wealth of pre-Columbian artifacts. After several years of exploration, we’ve only begun to uncover the incredible secrets this cave holds. I may not get rich from this work, but being part of it is incredibly exciting.

 

[ISmellGold]

I plan to start posting the material in 2025. Sorry for the delay, but at the moment, I’m focused on preparing for an expedition to a cave deep in the Sierra Madre Oriental of Mexico. This cave isn’t rich in gold, but it holds treasures of another kind: it’s one of the most significant deposits of Pleistocene megafaunal remains in the region. Additionally, it contains a wealth of pre-Columbian artifacts. After several years of exploration, we’ve only begun to uncover the incredible secrets this cave holds. I may not get rich from this work, but being part of it is incredibly exciting.

I would be very carefull, alot of people have come out of those things with Parasites, it will put you in the hospital if your not careful.
I would wear a mask at all times while in the cave, and be careful not to over exert yourself. The HARDER You breathe, the MORE you breathe.

 

[NEExplorers]

I would be very carefull, alot of people have come out of those things with Parasites, it will put you in the hospital if your not careful.
I would wear a mask at all times while in the cave, and be careful not to over exert yourself. The HARDER You breathe, the MORE you breathe.

Haha! Thanks for the heads-up. It’s amusing how most people fear vampire bats, tarantulas, and tailless whip scorpions we see in these caves, yet they’re hardly a concern. The real threats are the smaller, often overlooked dangers, diseases, fungi, and parasites.

I’ve been a dedicated caver and cave explorer for over 30 years, and experiences like this come with the territory. When I started this journey, I understood that there would always be risks in exploring the unknown. While we do everything we can to mitigate those risks, sometimes they catch you off guard.

On our first trip to this cave in Mexico, two other members of the expedition and I contracted histoplasmosis. We knew it was a possibility, but we didn’t notice many bats, saw very little guano, and didn’t spot any of the fungus, so we assumed we were in the clear. Turns out, we were wrong. By the time we got home, the symptoms hit. I ended up in the hospital for over a week with a fever that spiked above 104°F plus. Interestingly, the professor we work with, who grew up caving in Mexico, didn’t have any issues. I suspect he’s developed an immunity over the years.

Since then, we’ve taken extra precautions on return trips, including wearing masks when necessary.

Histoplasmosis is a common challenge for many professional cavers I know, and it’s definitely not something I’d recommend experiencing. Thankfully, since that first trip, we’ve been much more cautious and haven’t had any issues.

 

[Randawg72]

NEExplorers,
I've recently been watching caving videos on YouTube. Will you be exploring 'Cueva de los Tres Amigos'? Have a safe trip..

 

[NEExplorers]

NEExplorers,
I've recently been watching caving videos on YouTube. Will you be exploring 'Cueva de los Tres Amigos'? Have a safe trip..

No, we are currently working in Sistema Calera. There is an initial drop where we use a rope to descend, but the rest of the passages are primarily horizontal.

If you're interested in more caving videos, you can watch the short documentary about our expedition. It won Best of Show at the 2024 National Speleological Society Convention. I am a cave explorer and ROV operator for the expeditions.



If you enjoy that, I highly recommend checking out other underground videos and documentaries by Mike Sandone. He's a fellow explorer I've collaborated with on many exciting projects.

 

[Randawg72]

I had expected more interest in this topic. Apparently the longer a mystery goes unsolved, the more that people believe it's unsolvable. Or worse, that it's just a legend.
Every treasure hunter knows the odds are against him. What fun would it be if they weren't?

 

[ISmellGold]

I had expected more interest in this topic. Apparently the longer a mystery goes unsolved, the more that people believe it's unsolvable. Or worse, that it's just a legend.
Every treasure hunter knows the odds are against him. What fun would it be if they weren't?

Acually, I do believe Kidd did bury treasure at one time. But most likely everything he did bury has been recovered/unreported most likely.
I do belive The treasure Of The Two Frenchmen is out there still. Most Likely in Rhode Island Somwhere.
I can smell it.
Winter now though, going to have to wait till spring. To dig my gold

See you around Greenwich

 

[Randawg72]

That's true. 327 years is a long time. But we'll never know if we don't look, right?
I need to plan my trip as well. Best of luck to you ISmellGold.

"May fortune favor the foolish"