They want half of the treasure because they are the reason for knowing the place.

So they claim 12 meters.
* no we found the depth using L-rods, the 12 meters is in their spot
You say 6 Meters.
* it's in our new spot

Their spot and our spot are the same area.

How do you know how deep?
* using L-rods
If they have no equipment, how would they know how deep?
* I told you they are not experts, They don't know anything.

They want to be a part of our new spot
"Is it on public lands?
Is it within the law to recover?
What are the risks?"
*" My Answer : The archaeological land is owned by the state, and the law prohibits excavation without a license. Obtaining a license is impossible, and if you are caught excavating, you will go to prison."


So you are saying it is illegal to dig and you want advice about how to persue digging illegally?


Illegal is illegal, so decide if it is worth it to you to spend years in a horrible prison in your country.
 

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So they claim 12 meters.
* no we found the depth using L-rods, the 12 meters is in their spot

How do you know how deep?
* using L-rods
There ya go, make-believe treasure hunters using make-believe devices. @dreamon, it doesn't matter what you do, you will not be recovering any treasure.
 

My opinion? There is bad karma no matter which way you go.

No digging is allowed, and you can't get a permit, but you're going to dig a hole 18'-20' deep...you can not hide a hole that big.
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You will get caught, and put in a nasty prison cell with very bad/violent
people for room mates.

Also, these people that want 50%..I'm guessing they are part of some criminal
group, and they won't be willing to negotiate. Don't pay them their 50% and they might take more than just money from you.

As my late father would say: "Son, you got yourself stuck between a rock and a hard spot".

The smart thing to do would be to tell the other people (that want 50%) that you've decided not to pursue this any further. Then turn around and walk away
from the whole deal, find a way to make money legally, and don't look back.

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Yes it is, but for some reason, it happens quite a bit around here.

Yes, we do seem to attract that kind of thing....
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It’s a set up! Don’t do it! :cross:
 

We went out with 3 people who have archaeological symbols that are not on their land but in a mountainous area. It turned out that their treasure is very deep.

The metal detector revealed a place far from their place before we started working on it. We talked to them and they told us that they cannot help us with anything, no transportation, no workers, no protection, no housing, and you know that working in the mountains is very difficult.

At the same time, they want half of the treasure because they are the reason for knowing the place.

What is the solution with them? Do they have the right to half of the treasure? Is there karma for working without them?
Did you make a deal before setting out on what the split is?
If you didn't you should have. And if you didn't you foolishly left yourself open.
The predicament you say you find yourself in is your own fault if you didn't make a pre deal. If you did make a deal that was more for you and less for them and now they are shifting the goal posts then they are in the wrong.
 

We went out with 3 people who have archaeological symbols that are not on their land but in a mountainous area. It turned out that their treasure is very deep.

The metal detector revealed a place far from their place before we started working on it. We talked to them and they told us that they cannot help us with anything, no transportation, no workers, no protection, no housing, and you know that working in the mountains is very difficult.

At the same time, they want half of the treasure because they are the reason for knowing the place.

What is the solution with them? Do they have the right to half of the treasure? Is there karma for working without them?
Tenderfoot

Stick around you will get a bunch of opinions…
 

"Is it on public lands?
Is it within the law to recover?
What are the risks?"
* My Answer : The archaeological land is owned by the state, and the law prohibits excavation without a license. Obtaining a license is impossible, and if you are caught excavating, you will go to prison."



So you are saying it is illegal to dig and you want advice about how to persue digging illegally?


Illegal is illegal, so decide if it is worth it to you to spend years in a horrible prison in your country.
Tenderfoot
 

OP hasn't been back since Wed., but I do hope they return so we can at least
get the rest of the story.
 

We went out with 3 people who have archaeological symbols that are not on their land but in a mountainous area. It turned out that their treasure is very deep.

The metal detector revealed a place far from their place before we started working on it. We talked to them and they told us that they cannot help us with anything, no transportation, no workers, no protection, no housing, and you know that working in the mountains is very difficult.

At the same time, they want half of the treasure because they are the reason for knowing the place.

What is the solution with them? Do they have the right to half of the treasure? Is there karma for working without them?
Half of a treasure is better than No treasure. Just saying.
 

* Your question : So they're using their professional expertise to get you to find/recover the hidden treasure.
For this, they want 50%.
* My Answer : No, we are the experts: We have a metal detector and experts in analyzing archaeological symbols. The 3 people just know an archeological place.

* Your question : How do they obtain this knowledge?
* My Answer : Archaeological sites are easy to identify and do not require any experience, you will find many stones with symbols and shapes engraved on them...

* Your questions :
Is it on public lands?
Is it within the law to recover?
What are the risks?
* My Answer : The archaeological land is owned by the state, and the law prohibits excavation without a license. Obtaining a license is impossible, and if you are caught excavating, you will go to prison.

They want to play the role of mediator or broker without any sacrifice or contribution.

My first question would be:
Why don't they go and recover it themselves?
Next question to them is to prove it.
* My Answer : They are not the experts: they don't have a metal detector, and They are not experts in analyzing archaeological Symbols.

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They simply want half of what we find because they took us to the archaeological site, but this has a lot of treasures, they chose some places to work in, we determined the zero point and the depth, they said it was difficult for them.

And fortunately we found a grave that was not deep, we decided to work on it alone, because we did everything by ourselves, the transportation to the place, the experience, the expenses ...

Is there any karma if we work alone without them?
Karma is “action” any action.
Digging a grave is not good karma. You will be held accountable. If not in this life, then the next.
 

We went out with 3 people who have archaeological symbols that are not on their land but in a mountainous area. It turned out that their treasure is very deep.

The metal detector revealed a place far from their place before we started working on it. We talked to them and they told us that they cannot help us with anything, no transportation, no workers, no protection, no housing, and you know that working in the mountains is very difficult.

At the same time, they want half of the treasure because they are the reason for knowing the place.

What is the solution with them? Do they have the right to half of the treasure? Is there karma for working without thm?
We went out with 3 people who have archaeological symbols that are not on their land but in a mountainous area. It turned out that their treasure is very deep.

The metal detector revealed a place far from their place before we started working on it. We talked to them and they told us that they cannot help us with anything, no transportation, no workers, no protection, no housing, and you know that working in the mountains is very difficult.

At the same time, they want half of the treasure because they are the reason for knowing the place.

What is the solution with them? Do they have the right to half of the treasure? Is there karma for working without them?
Stay away. Those people sound greedy and who knows what they might do. If they think you took more than your share they might turn you in to the police or worse.

I wouldn’t mess with that for 100%, and likely the 100% of nothing. L-rods are not that accurate nine times out of ten they show mineralization. Freedom is worth more than any money.

It might already be too late if someone else recovers it and they blame you. Don’t associate with greedy people. If some even did some digging they still might accuse you of stealing it.
 

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My questions are:

(1) Would you have known about it without them?

(2) Do others, other than them, know about it?

(3) Did they tell you about it thinking they could get a share (the amount of that share aside)?

(4) If you answered yes to "1" and "3", don't you think they deserve something?

About forty years ago, a guy offered me $500.00 just to tell him where the cannon the troops dumped over a cliff when Chief Joe grew tired of his people dying, stopped and turned about, to face his enemy. That was a lot of money back then.

If I knew where a treasure was, I would withhold the information until someone valued my information like they would.

That said, 50-50 may be steep, but 70-30 seems not unreasonable, dependent on the answers to the questions.



We went out with 3 people who have archaeological symbols that are not on their land but in a mountainous area. It turned out that their treasure is very deep.

The metal detector revealed a place far from their place before we started working on it. We talked to them and they told us that they cannot help us with anything, no transportation, no workers, no protection, no housing, and you know that working in the mountains is very difficult.

At the same time, they want half of the treasure because they are the reason for knowing the place.

What is the solution with them? Do they have the right to half of the treasure? Is there karma for working without them?
 

An exception to the grave digging would be, in my opinion, what we came up against back in the sixties. Chief Long Jim's daughter told us where to dig for artifacts.

As she pointed out, the Army Core of Engineers already dug up (desecrated) all the graves, to move them, because of flooding that COULD result from work they were doing.

However, the only requirement to qualify as moving a grave was to move something like sixteen bones. Which ones was not elaborated on in the requirement, so there were yet some 100 year old, or older skulls.

Karma is “action” any action.
Digging a grave is not good karma. You will be held accountable. If not in this life, then the next.
 

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