Two items found among Civil war relics. What are they?

[flintchip]

Hello to everyone. This is my first post and I accidently put it in the Help forum to begin with. So, here goes nothing. I recently found these two relics while digging an old foundation that has produced many Civil War relics. Among them are Eagle's, Eagle I's, and a Louisiana militia button. Also found was a Model 1851 sword belt plate and many porcelain buttons. If anyone has any idea's on what the items pictured are, I would appreciate your comments. Both are brass. I believe the two oval things are some type of beads and the long spoon looking item is some type of measuring device since it has what looks like a shovel on one end. Thank you.

 

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[DCMatt]

Item one looks like jewelry beads.

Is the round part of item two flat or is it like a spoon? It looks homemade.

DCMatt

 

[flintchip]

The round part is pretty much flat. It has very good symmetry so if it's homemade the person who made it really knew what they were doing.

 

[Breezie]

WElCOME Flint to the forum! Are the 2 bead like items made of brass? If not, what? Breezie

 

[flintchip]

Thank you for the welcome. The two beads are made of brass. They are thin and hollow.

 

[Breezie]

Thank you for the welcome. The two beads are made of brass. They are thin and hollow.

Flint, those types of brass beads are called 'fluted' because they have ridges. Those beads have been made for many years, and they are still making them. Nice finds, Breezie

 

[flintchip]

Thanks Breezie, You really know your stuff.

 

[BuckleBoy]

How deep is the scoop part of the "shovel" item? It could be a piece of chocolate tongs...but those are usually Victorian era and highly decorative. Is it cast brass or stamped brass?

Regards,

Buckles


P.S.--I'd love to see a photo of that Louisiana button when you get a chance.

 

[flintchip]

It looks like stamped brass to me and I can't see any sign of another tong being attached. The scoop is about 1/4" deep. I'll try to get a picture of the button posted later. Thank you.

 

[Lee-MI-MI]

Looks like it may be from a field medical kit. Back then there were no pills or tablets to take. Everything was herbs or powders. This may have been a tool to scoop medical powders from containers and mix them with the flat blade portion for a special blend of powders.

 

[flintchip]

Looks like it may be from a field medical kit. Back then there were no pills or tablets to take. Everything was herbs or powders. This may have been a tool to scoop medical powders from containers and mix them with the flat blade portion for a special blend of powders.

I think your probably right. It would explain the purpose of both ends. Thank you.

 

[flintchip]

How deep is the scoop part of the "shovel" item? It could be a piece of chocolate tongs...but those are usually Victorian era and highly decorative. Is it cast brass or stamped brass?

Regards,

Buckles


P.S.--I'd love to see a photo of that Louisiana button when you get a chance.

Here is a picture of the Louisiana button and another picture of two relics found within a couple of feet of it.

 

[Stand Watie]

It looks like stamped brass to me and I can't see any sign of another tong being attached. The scoop is about 1/4" deep. I'll try to get a picture of the button posted later. Thank you.

I've been looking at that object for a while trying to think what it could possibly be. It never occurred to me that it could be some sort of medical device. But now that you've mentioned it I think that makes a lot of sense. Could the "shovel" end be for what you mentioned, a type of powder medicine dispenser, and the flat round end be a tongue depressor? Just a thought.

 

[flintchip]

I've been looking at that object for a while trying to think what it could possibly be. It never occurred to me that it could be some sort of medical device. But now that you've mentioned it I think that makes a lot of sense. Could the "shovel" end be for what you mentioned, a type of powder medicine dispenser, and the flat round end be a tongue depressor? Just a thought.

People's imaginations never stop amazing me. Yes, it could have been used, if need be, as a tongue depressor. Wow! I would have never thought of that in a million years. Thank you.

 

[BuckleBoy]

That LA button is a great find. And the sword belt plate ain't too shabby either! Thanks for sharing.


Best Wishes,


Buckles

 

[flintchip]

That LA button is a great find. And the sword belt plate ain't too shabby either! Thanks for sharing.


Best Wishes,


Buckles

Your Welcome.

 

[Roger Mn.]

Looks like a throwing knife. It would have had a thin leather woven strap for a handle. Before 1950's.

 

[flintchip]

Looks like a throwing knife. It would have had a thin leather woven strap for a handle. Before 1950's.

Never thought of that, but its worth looking into.