Ultra deep wrecks in the Gulf of Mexico

[Mackaydon]

An interesting read:

https://espis.boem.gov/final%20reports/5109.pdf

Don in SoCal

 

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[Crow]

Yes fascinating shipwrecks and fantastic lesson in understanding decomposition of a 19th century shipwrecks.

here is green lantern shipwreck plan below.

here some pictures below. Showing forecastle and half buried ships bell.

Here is picture of windless and capstan below.

here is picture of the Starboard lantern below.

Here is a picture of the stern below.

Crow

 

[Crow]

Here is a picture of the map 7000 ft shipwreck.

Here is some pictures of wreckage. The ships wheel below

Anchors of of two

Dinner wear

Bottles and small medicine bottles

The ships oven below.

Yellow metal sheathing helps to id the age of wreck.

Ship capstan
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Looks cannon or signal cannon. or perhaps a donkey boiler below?

Cooking pot below?

Assorted items.

Each respective shipwreck as lesson on how the marine environment totally over time breakdown such shipwreck.

I imagine there would be heaps more shipwrecks in the deep waters of the gulf of Mexico.

Crow

 

[enrada]

If you didn't think NOAA and Search Inc are involved in treasure hunting, reading this book will convince you. Why was the research done for this book in the first place other than for treasure hunting jobs? Now they just have to find a fictional reef close to where the wrecks might be. Taxpayer funded scam.
I have a copy of this book.

 

[Crow]

I gather your referring to Bermeja A phantom island that appeared on maps from the 16th to 20th centuries, but was not found in a 1997 survey or a 2009 study?

 

[Magoopeter]

Interesting as I believe there are also a number of areas that were uncharted shallows that are no longer in existence certainly if a sandy island of that size can erode then areas of the Florida coast can also disappear over time, the Romans map shows area of the Florida coast that seems to have also disappeared.

There is an area around one and half miles long that has seems to have wreckage uncovering I believe this was very shallow and uncharted during the plate fleet period and may be the cliffs referred to in some of lost fleet reports, or were people were rescued offshore.

I went to dive after the Hurricane 2019, and it seems to have been buried again.

Also unfortunately the people that done the survey did not under stand the importance of position and straight line survey, it took me a week to figure out they were just driving around and you know when you tow a fish lay back and depth is one thing but if the fish is on the path of a circle then it is not were the software thinks it is, they basically did a big oval and filled in the areas that did not show green on the screen, I dived in a number of locations that there were targets and there was nothing but sand. Ther are plenty of mag hists in the area also, anyone every find anything offshore withing the area of the 1715 fleet.

 

[Crow]

The ocean is dynamic place amigos Coastlines are constantly changing eroding away building back up sand islands appear and disappear. That and not so accurate dead reckoning in the past it would be easy to accidentally create a phantom island also.

 

[marconi beach]

The ocean is dynamic place amigos Coastlines are constantly changing eroding away building back up sand islands appear and disappear. That and not so accurate dead reckoning in the past it would be easy to accidentally create a phantom island also.

The area where Whydah wrecked in 1717 has constant sand movement. Often we would have to blast sand away in the morning after we worked an area the day before. Woods Hole scientists estimated that the 90 foot sand dunes on Marconi Beach lost almost 100 feet in coverage since the wreck. All that sand ended up on the site and moves around north-south and also a bit east west, crazy place but beautiful. Now the great whites are taking over.


Marconi Beach