What is better for picking through trash and detecting deeper targets?

bigscoop

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O I went back to the 120yr old home again today and detected the front yard. Park 2, sensitivity 18, recovery factory default. All trash except for two quarters, 1972, 1997. Yard is only about 50' X 50', so I intentionally drug every target thinking eventually it will be clean enough to start picking up good targets

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Welcome to picking through the trash. Don't expect too much too soon, as fishing through trash is extremely difficult to get comfortable at.
 

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O I went back to the 120yr old home again today and detected the front yard. Park 2, sensitivity 18, recovery factory default. All trash except for two quarters, 1972, 1997. Yard is only about 50' X 50', so I intentionally drug every target thinking eventually it will be clean enough to start picking up good targets

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That's the best chance at finding those deeper keepers. Takes a lot of work and determination. People tend to want the quick results and don't have the patience or perhaps the time at a site to do what you are doing. Hope it pays off.
 

sphillips

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That's the best chance at finding those deeper keepers. Takes a lot of work and determination. People tend to want the quick results and don't have the patience or perhaps the time at a site to do what you are doing. Hope it pays off.

Being fairly new at using the 800, once I get the yard fairly clean of trash, what techniques and settings should I use in order to have the best opportunity of finding the good stuff. I am on the Treasure Coast of Florida and the soil is mostly sandy, if this has any bearing.

Thx in advance for any input from anyone.
 

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Being fairly new at using the 800, once I get the yard fairly clean of trash, what techniques and settings should I use in order to have the best opportunity of finding the good stuff. I am on the Treasure Coast of Florida and the soil is mostly sandy, if this has any bearing.

Thx in advance for any input from anyone.

sphillips, a lot has been said in this thread already. I'm going to sum up what I think about most in a situation like yours:

- I've noticed that slowing the equinox swing down is probably the best way to pick up faint/deeper targets and also the best way to get clear separation between good targets and the trash that it may be right next to.

- Lowering recovery speed should give you more depth; increasing recovery speed (to 5,6,even 7) will give better separation between trash and good targets. If you've cleaned the trash out then a lower recovery speed + slower swing should give best depth.

- "Looking at" the target from multiple directions will give you a sense for size and shape once you learn what you're hearing. (Example: at some point you'll hear an awesome 30's signal, but when you pinpoint it the target will be very large...a can most likely. Coins sound to me like short blips).

You may benefit from watching a YouTube guy that goes by Metal Detecting NYC (MD NYC); his name is Merrill and he does a nice job of explaining how he uses the Equinox, and he shows you a lot of different target types.

I am not a YouTube guy but recently made a video at an 1800's house with a ton of trash, and maybe something in my video will help you. I'll include it below.
Good luck.
- Brian

 

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sphillips

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sphillips, a lot has been said in this thread already. I'm going to sum up what I think about most in a situation like yours:

- I've noticed that slowing the equinox swing down is probably the best way to pick up faint/deeper targets and also the best way to get clear separation between good targets and the trash that it may be right next to.

- Lowering recovery speed should give you more depth; increasing recovery speed (to 5,6,even 7) will give better separation between trash and good targets. If you've cleaned the trash out then a lower recovery speed + slower swing should give best depth.

- "Looking at" the target from multiple directions will give you a sense for size and shape once you learn what you're hearing. (Example: at some point you'll hear an awesome 30's signal, but when you pinpoint it the target will be very large...a can most likely. Coins sound to me like short blips).

You may benefit from watching a YouTube guy that goes by Metal Detecting NYC (MD NYC); his name is Merrill and he does a nice job of explaining how he uses the Equinox, and he shows you a lot of different target types.

I am not a YouTube guy but recently made a video at an 1800's house with a ton of trash, and maybe something in my video will help you. I'll include it below.
Good luck.
- Brian



Thx Brian, very helpful and appreciated. Steve
 

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BH505Man

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This just does not sound right your detector is operating a fixed field you can't raise or lower it's set and can't be changed more power less power and so on.
Buy adding more sensitivity you are going to make the big targets louder and the small targets louder and you can always turn your volume to max and lower your volume in your headphones so if those big targets are loud and the small targets are faint changing sensitivity will not change this at all one will be loud one will be faint.
But running low sensitivity will only make the faint targets fainter not as loud by running less sensitivity.Running higher sensitivity the bigger targets will be louder and so will the smaller targets .
As long as the machine is stable why not use more sensitivity to here the fainter targets.
To bad we don't have a gain setting on the nox like the ctx maxing gain makes all targets the same in volume faint or loud.
As far as halo effect on larger targets because of using to much sensitivity you could say the same of smaller targets to .
Show me in a video where at low sensitivity you can hear both faint and big targets sweeping over them ,then show me by using higher sensitivity you will not hear the fainter target.

Going back to the ? from the member here recovery speed means nothing to me past 4 inches all the minelab coils for the nox separate the same 6 11 12x15 at 4 inches get deeper like 5 in muti none separate try with a dime and pull-tab 3 inches a part one to 4 inches good separation at 5 you will only here pull-tab i still don't know what all the hype is on separation and recovery speed. Here's a vid you tube ((((((((((separation 0011 )))))))). sube
 

bigscoop

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The larger the coil the more filtering required to achieve a stable search field. The more filtering required the greater potential for more faint/weak returns to be filtered out. Just the nature of the technology.
 

bigscoop

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Traditionally speaking, especially true in disc modes, as the coil and search field grow larger so must the source of those weaker and fainter returns. It's for this same reason that smaller coils have always been more sensitive to smaller targets.
 

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