✅ SOLVED What's it?

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TheCannonballGuy

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About your third item:
According to the 1907 J.M. Eilers & Co. saddlery & horse-equipment catalog, your find is a Johnson's Pattern gag-runner -- which is a component of a horse's bridle. See the image of the relevant page from the 1907 Eilers catalog attached below.
 

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DCMatt

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That eagle button could be something special. I expected the "Grecian Key" pattern on the back to make it distinctive, but I didn't find a match. Perhaps others will chime in. I'm guessing it is early 1800's.

eagle button.JPG
 

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DCMatt

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My first thought on item #1 was "chamber stick finger loop". But it seems small for that...

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Your third item is a coin.

Yes... looks like a George III halfpenny (possibly a contemporary counterfeit):

George III.jpg

Edit: could also be George II, but the daate looks like 177? which would be George III. The other side will tell you for sure, if anything is still visible. George II faces left; George III faces right.
 

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DCMatt

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eagle button back.JPG

Here it is:
Worn by US Navy officers.Many of these beautiful, early US Navy buttons were British made. NA-66C per Record Of American Uniform And Historical Buttons, by Alphaeus H. Albert. Backmark: " NE Plus Ultra / Treble Gilt / Stand Colr" Button is flat with 16 stars. Size: 23 mm (almost 1").
 

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ansehnlich1

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Here it is:
Worn by US Navy officers. Many of these beautiful, early US Navy buttons were British made. NA-66C per Record Of American Uniform And Historical Buttons, by Alphaeus H. Albert. Backmark: " NE Plus Ultra / Treble Gilt / Stand Colr" Button is flat with 16 stars. Size: 23 mm (almost 1").
Totallly Awesome ID on this.

Again, thanks for the information! It's quite humbling to have a site that yields such artifacts.

I run a Nox 800. This button was in a messy iron infested area where an old building of some sort, maybe an original PA cabin, used to be. It's all open fields now. I estimate the building was torn down around 1940 or so based on aerial photography.

The coin hit as a random high note amongst all sorts of other chatter. Similar to the sound of a piece of a cut nail. It was deeper than the other stuff I've dug there, about 8 inches down.

Running field 2, threshold set to 2, 5 tone. I use the WM-08 with earbuds.

I'll be heading back out to the site again, you can bank on it :)
 

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TheCannonballGuy

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Fat, thank you for that very Positive review of my ID of the gag-runner (horse bridle part).

In re-reading my gag-runner post today, I noticed I'd miss-typed the word "pattern" as "patter" -- and spellcheck of course did not catch that error. It's fixed now, thanks to T-Net's Edit-your-post option.
 

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Great saves. These will look great in your display. I especially like the button.
 

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ansehnlich1

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About your third item:
According to the 1907 J.M. Eilers & Co. saddlery & horse-equipment catalog, your find is a Johnson's Pattern gag-runner -- which is a component of a horse's bridle. See the image of the relevant page from the 1907 Eilers catalog attached below.

Do you think it possible the 'ring' item with the tab protrusion may also be a gag-runner of the type pictured, just with the other, smaller, ring broken off?

Once again, thanks for your input, otherwise I'd NEVER know the answer to that often asked detectorists question....what's it? :)
 

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