WooWho went to 33 and ground NOT frozen solid

Don in SJ

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I went out yesterday and even though the lawns and open areas are frozen solid like cement, the woods usually stay diggable if you have enough leaf litter on the ground and have something to break through a thin crust of frozen earth up to about 3 inches. Mostly the ground was only crusted in ice beneath the leaf litter.

So, after seeing that it was huntable yesterday, my son and I went out this afternoon to get some fresh air.
We were at a site that is horrible for iron hits but with the temperature hovering just at 32* he decided to use his Garrett ACE 250 in lieu of his Fisher CZ70, which acts up in below freezing temps.

We did get to do some comparisons between our detectors and his Garrett and his lack of a lot of hours with it in a heavy iron area showed, the ACE 250 was having trouble telling iron hits from iffy coin hits. Just a note for all you 250 users. My old Explorer XS, which I have a zillion hours :) of useage with did not lie to me and everytime he called me over to compare readings, I got to say the bad news and was right every time, Iron or shotgun casing. :(

Needless to say this was not a real good hunt, Dan found nothing other than a piece of lead and many shotgun casings. I had a bit better luck and got 3 buttons, all which appear to be in line age wise with when my 1724 Wood's Hibernia coin was lost, around 1800. The buttons, one a blow hole type and the other a cast and one largie all have no backmarks and appear 1790's and earlier.

No coins today, but this area has been very stingy in the oldies coming forth so we did enjoy the scenery, the ice on the river, and explored the one big cellarhole where bottle diggers left some nasty reminders of their work. :(

The keyhole cover I found on Saturday while checking out the area for digability. :)

HH

Don
 

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Don,
Great looking pictures. Way to go on the buttons.
-MM-
 
Nice to be digging!
 
Nice little pile of stuff... man that looks like a great place to spend the day diggin. I also noticed an umbrella piece.
 
Good you got out and made a few finds! Great pics and HH, Mike
 
Great pics and best of luck with your site.

t.p
 
Montana Jim said:
Nice little pile of stuff... man that looks like a great place to spend the day diggin. I also noticed an umbrella piece.

Jim , curiosity has struck me that you said it is an umbrella piece. Do you have any photographic evidence that it is? The reason I ask is, never gave much thought to this type of item before, both my son and I have found one or two more of these over the years and all have been found at places abandoned by mid 1800's, before CW period.

I am not convinced that is what the item is, the fact that the serrations are not evenly spaced, so I strongly suspect the item is perhaps something else other than an umbrella part, but have no clue. I believe umbrella spoke connectors are evenly spaced?

It appears the steel ribbed umbrella was not invented till 1852, and the site found at was long gone by the 1830's.

Don
 
Jyes said:
Montana Jim said:
Nice little pile of stuff... man that looks like a great place to spend the day diggin.  I also noticed an umbrella piece. 

Jim , curiosity has struck me that you said it is an umbrella piece.  Do you have any photographic evidence that it is?  The reason I ask is, never gave much thought to this type of item before, both my son and I have found one or two more of these over the years and all have been found at places abandoned by mid 1800's, before CW period.

I am not convinced that is what the item is, the fact that the serrations are not evenly spaced, so I strongly suspect the item is perhaps something else other than an umbrella part, but have no clue.  I believe umbrella spoke connectors are evenly spaced?

It appears the steel ribbed umbrella was not invented till 1852, and the site found at was long gone by the 1830's.

Don

I've done some looking, and in fact might be wrong.  :P  In my haste I quickly identified it without observing some details... or lack there of.  However, it is only the fact that the serrations are uneven that makes me question it. 

See these previous posts for a proper umbrella piece:

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,59463.0.html

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,30149.0.html

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,28410.0.html

As for the dates... before the umbrella was the parasol - and no matter where you dig, something can come along long afterwords and be lost or tossed. 

Reguardless... you have some great digs!  Looking forward to your future finds.  HH  :)
 
Great looking sites and nice finds.
 

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