Something to think about

[oldkoot]

As a lot of you know I have two Legends, my initial first Legend was 1.04 when I received it, it was one of the first Legends to hit the U.S shores in the very first shipment to arrive in the U.S, my second Legend was 1.05 and I purchased it to try to teach my wife how to metal detect, but she has been unable to grasp metal detecting even though when I first started she would detect with me using a AT Pro and she actually became pretty good at finding things when we would go out and detect, but now with her having severe Dementia all she can do is pretty much sit and kind of watch me detect, this post is not about my wife and her medical issues, but just a little background building up to what those with a earlier Legend needs to ponder upon.

My first Legend, I use and used as a tester unit prior to installing any of the updates in my second Legend unit, again my first Legend was a 1.04 version and the second one was a 1.05 version, my 1.04 version Legend I used to test all three of the Beta Test versions, my second legend I had updated all the way to 1.09 and tested and compared all the Beta test versions to the 1.09 Beta test version 2 was the only Beta test version I had seen problems with initially beta test versions 1 and 3 I seen no issues at all in my Legend that I ran the Beta test on, The Beta test version 3 that particular Legend ran better than ever on, so when 1.11 was released I installed it on my Legend that I had done all the testing with and compared it again to my Legend that had 1.09 installed on it, (Something Was Off) with my test Legend it was no where close to the same as what I was seeing in Beta test version 3, tones sounded like crap, depth was no where close to my Legend that was running 1.09 and when I state the depth was off I am not talking a little bit it was way off, target IDs were all over the place with my test Legend, I also could not use the LG24 coil on my test Legend because it was so unstable, it was a little better with the stock coil but still not correct on that particular Legend, I ended up reverting that test Legend back to 1.09, and everything seemed to be back to normal tones were clean TIDs were more stable and and I was able to use the LG24 coil on that Legend now as well as the stock coil, so I have had my test Legend running 1.09 for a while now, my second Legend which was 1.05 and updated to 1.09 I decided to do yet another test using my second Legend as the test unit I updated it to 1.11 and everything ran fine with that particular Legend, (I thought what the Hell) LOL I was able to run the LG24 coil and every coil I have for the Legend ran great, TIDs were stable, tones sounded completely normal depth was great everything was great with that particular Legend running 1.11, my thoughts were I will just run one Legend with 1.11 and one with 1.09, after all 1.09 has just a few less features than 1.11 so I ran with that for a bit, (But inquisitive minds want to know)and are never settled until all things are checked and checked again LOL


here is what I found
Out of curiosity I went to the Nokta site to see if they had an updated download for the 1.11 and updated updater tool, in all appearances nothing had changed but I went ahead and re downloaded the software 1.11 again, here is where I discovered that the download I had on my PC was a smaller file than the files I had just downloaded, not by much but the software packet that I had just downloaded was a larger packet, so I Extracted the files from the newly downloaded software, when I do this I put them on my desk top so I do not have to search my files for them, so when I attempted to put the new updater tool on my Desk top a pop up came up and said the files already exist do I want to replace I clicked replace and let it do its thing, even though the updater tool that was already on my PC was the same v1-8-win and the new download is v1-8-win something is different I do not know if the previous download glitched and missed some of the files or if Nokta changed something in the updater tool or what, with the new download being a larger file I decided to once again install the 1.11 on my Legend that would previously not run correctly while running 1.11, all I will say is (What A Huge Difference) that legend now seems to run like what I was seeing in 1.10 Beta test version 3 tones sound clean and clear,TIDs are stable and the depth is back to what I was seeing in Beta test version 3, also the stability now seems better than ever, I also re installed the 1.11 on my second Legend even though it seemed to work ok I felt because of the Larger file packet it would be best to re install the 1.11 just to make sure, and it even seems to be running better with better depth and more stable TIDs.


the point of this thread is to make any one that is having similar issues with lost depth, unstable target IDs, tones just not sounding quite rite, and other issues after installing the 1.11, you may want to delete the files that are currently on your PC and re download and re install the 1.11 just to see if it helps because it did on both my Legends

Anyone deciding to do as I have done (Do Not Forget To Perform A Factory Default Reset after you Re Install 1.11)

 

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[Sandog]

Great report! Thanks for taking the time to do all that and writing it up.

 

[oldkoot]

Great report! Thanks for taking the time to do all that and writing it up.

Thank you Sandog

we are all here to help each other is the way I have always looked at it, and if I notice something that I think may help others I have no problem setting down and typing it out and letting people know what my observations are
I will tell you I have only been able to go out into my test bed for very short spurts as I am still recovering from a surgery I had a few weeks ago, what I am noticing now with my Legend that previously had issues while running 1.11, I am now seeing what I seen while I had that same Legend running 1.10 Beta test version 3 which that particular Legend ran fantastic on 1.10 Beta test version 3

I have been giving this some thoughts and what I am almost wondering is with all the new Legends coming out of the Nokta factory with 1.11 already installed, I am thinking maybe Nokta did some tweaking of the firmware and the updater tool and just never let us Legend users know, do I know this for sure absolutely not it is just a guess on my part, all I can tell anyone is my Legend that previously would not run correctly on 1.11 now is running fantastic with no instability issues or anything

I performed yet another test last night, (as You can tell I have way to much time on my hands rite now LOL)
in this test in my house, (and yes I know it is not a good idea to turn a detector on inside a house LOL), but what I did I set down in a chair in a room in my house that has a lot of EMI going on, I booted my Legend up the sensitivity was at 25, I was actually able to boost the sensitivity to 28 before I started getting chatter because of the EMI at 25 there was no Chatter at all, nor at 26 at 27 sens I started getting a little chatter at 28 a ton, prior to this fresh download and fresh re install of the 1.11 if I would have done this test inside my house I would have had to drop the sensitivity down to 5 to get the chatter to stop so EMI should not be an issue any longer at least for me anyways

 

[Bart@Big Boys Hobbies]

Great post and observations! Can't hurt!

 

[LostinGeorgia]

As a lot of you know I have two Legends, my initial first Legend was 1.04 when I received it, it was one of the first Legends to hit the U.S shores in the very first shipment to arrive in the U.S, my second Legend was 1.05 and I purchased it to try to teach my wife how to metal detect, but she has been unable to grasp metal detecting even though when I first started she would detect with me using a AT Pro and she actually became pretty good at finding things when we would go out and detect, but now with her having severe Dementia all she can do is pretty much sit and kind of watch me detect, this post is not about my wife and her medical issues, but just a little background building up to what those with a earlier Legend needs to ponder upon.

My first Legend, I use and used as a tester unit prior to installing any of the updates in my second Legend unit, again my first Legend was a 1.04 version and the second one was a 1.05 version, my 1.04 version Legend I used to test all three of the Beta Test versions, my second legend I had updated all the way to 1.09 and tested and compared all the Beta test versions to the 1.09 Beta test version 2 was the only Beta test version I had seen problems with initially beta test versions 1 and 3 I seen no issues at all in my Legend that I ran the Beta test on, The Beta test version 3 that particular Legend ran better than ever on, so when 1.11 was released I installed it on my Legend that I had done all the testing with and compared it again to my Legend that had 1.09 installed on it, (Something Was Off) with my test Legend it was no where close to the same as what I was seeing in Beta test version 3, tones sounded like crap, depth was no where close to my Legend that was running 1.09 and when I state the depth was off I am not talking a little bit it was way off, target IDs were all over the place with my test Legend, I also could not use the LG24 coil on my test Legend because it was so unstable, it was a little better with the stock coil but still not correct on that particular Legend, I ended up reverting that test Legend back to 1.09, and everything seemed to be back to normal tones were clean TIDs were more stable and and I was able to use the LG24 coil on that Legend now as well as the stock coil, so I have had my test Legend running 1.09 for a while now, my second Legend which was 1.05 and updated to 1.09 I decided to do yet another test using my second Legend as the test unit I updated it to 1.11 and everything ran fine with that particular Legend, (I thought what the Hell) LOL I was able to run the LG24 coil and every coil I have for the Legend ran great, TIDs were stable, tones sounded completely normal depth was great everything was great with that particular Legend running 1.11, my thoughts were I will just run one Legend with 1.11 and one with 1.09, after all 1.09 has just a few less features than 1.11 so I ran with that for a bit, (But inquisitive minds want to know)and are never settled until all things are checked and checked again LOL


here is what I found
Out of curiosity I went to the Nokta site to see if they had an updated download for the 1.11 and updated updater tool, in all appearances nothing had changed but I went ahead and re downloaded the software 1.11 again, here is where I discovered that the download I had on my PC was a smaller file than the files I had just downloaded, not by much but the software packet that I had just downloaded was a larger packet, so I Extracted the files from the newly downloaded software, when I do this I put them on my desk top so I do not have to search my files for them, so when I attempted to put the new updater tool on my Desk top a pop up came up and said the files already exist do I want to replace I clicked replace and let it do its thing, even though the updater tool that was already on my PC was the same v1-8-win and the new download is v1-8-win something is different I do not know if the previous download glitched and missed some of the files or if Nokta changed something in the updater tool or what, with the new download being a larger file I decided to once again install the 1.11 on my Legend that would previously not run correctly while running 1.11, all I will say is (What A Huge Difference) that legend now seems to run like what I was seeing in 1.10 Beta test version 3 tones sound clean and clear,TIDs are stable and the depth is back to what I was seeing in Beta test version 3, also the stability now seems better than ever, I also re installed the 1.11 on my second Legend even though it seemed to work ok I felt because of the Larger file packet it would be best to re install the 1.11 just to make sure, and it even seems to be running better with better depth and more stable TIDs.


the point of this thread is to make any one that is having similar issues with lost depth, unstable target IDs, tones just not sounding quite rite, and other issues after installing the 1.11, you may want to delete the files that are currently on your PC and re download and re install the 1.11 just to see if it helps because it did on both my Legends

Anyone deciding to do as I have done (Do Not Forget To Perform A Factory Default Reset after you Re Install 1.11)

We have wife’s with similar issues. Mine is in very early stages and follows me everywhere I go. Can’t get her to detect but she knows a good signal when she hears it. All the best to you.

 

[oldkoot]

We have wife’s with similar issues. Mine is in very early stages and follows me everywhere I go. Can’t get her to detect but she knows a good signal when she hears it. All the best to you.

its a desease I would not wish on my worst enemy, my wifes dementia is severe, and it did not help that she was hit by a hit and run driver which literally accelerated her dementia 10 fold

All the best to you also LostinGeorgia will keep you in our prayers