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    Gypsyheart~ Queen of Rust

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    Old Oil Painting Renoir

    In the early 60's my grandpa worked for an eccentric elderly lady . She had traveled the world and had a mansion full of antiques etc. She constantly gave him different crazy items that she and her late husband had collected. When my grandpa died in the 80's ,I recieved this painting (which had been one of her gifts to him) ....(this is a copy I found on ebay)....The oil painting is about 2 x 3 ft. and is in a four inch gilted ornate frame.The painting has hung in my bedroom for years and I never gave it much thought,other than I like it. I guess I never noticed that it was signed Renoir or cared. I know that many art students copied great artists paintings and my question is, would it be worth anything? I know nothing about old paintings and would like a direction to turn. There isnt any student name on the back and its a stretched canvas,kind of crude,like someone made it themselves. Thanks
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    I go a great distance,while some are considering whether they will start today or tomorrow

  2. #2
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    Gypsyheart~ Queen of Rust

    Nov 2005
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    Re: Old Oil Painting Renoir

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainZossima


    You are soooooooooooooo silly.


    Cappy Z.
    tell me why ? So I can laugh also !If its a art student copy , are they worth anything?
    You are the art find expert here....help me out?
    I go a great distance,while some are considering whether they will start today or tomorrow

  3. #3
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    Gypsyheart~ Queen of Rust

    Nov 2005
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    Re: Old Oil Painting Renoir

    Well...I am pretty sure it wont be an original.....LOL....just wondering if student copies were worth anything....It can just stay where it is as far as I am concerned...unless of course someone wants to pay big moola for a great fake......
    I go a great distance,while some are considering whether they will start today or tomorrow

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    Diggincoinz

    Dec 2004
    Wayne County, NY
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    Re: Old Oil Painting Renoir

    Come on now, tell us the truth. It's a portrait of you as a teenager painted by a local artist isn't it.

    Uh, looks like you got the "booty" too!

    Sorry, got off track here...... I really don't know anything, but I'd bet it would go well in an auction although I'd never sell it. An appraisel might be in order though.

    Chris
    Happy Hunting!
    "Diggincoinz"

  5. #5
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    Gypsyheart~ Queen of Rust

    Nov 2005
    Ozarks
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    Re: Old Oil Painting Renoir

    Quote Originally Posted by DigginItUp
    Come on now, tell us the truth. It's a portrait of you as a teenager painted by a local artist isn't it.

    Uh, looks like you got the "booty" too!

    Sorry, got off track here...... I really don't know anything, but I'd bet it would go well in an auction although I'd never sell it. An appraisel might be in order though.

    Chris
    Hahahahaha.....Now I am crying! ....The frame is probally worth more....I am trying to upload the original from my stupid camera...but somethings just not right...The original (well my original) just has much more richer colors.....
    I go a great distance,while some are considering whether they will start today or tomorrow

  6. #6
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    Gypsyheart~ Queen of Rust

    Nov 2005
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    Re: Old Oil Painting Renoir

    ahhhhh...but that is without the frame......
    I go a great distance,while some are considering whether they will start today or tomorrow

  7. #7
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    Gypsyheart~ Queen of Rust

    Nov 2005
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    Re: Old Oil Painting Renoir

    Yep...I am pretty convinced that I own the original Renoir and that who ever paid hundreds of thousands for their fakes got gypped...evidently my humble grandfather was actually a famous art smuggler posing as a caretaker and was able to filter millions of dollars of Renoir's,Van Gogh's and Picasso's to his grandchildren...replacing them with fakes...I am sure all the famous art galleries and museums will be sending their people to my door any second...better get home and bake some cookies and open the vaults.....for my pending visitors.....
    I go a great distance,while some are considering whether they will start today or tomorrow

  8. #8

    May 2005
    Northern Illinois
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    Re: Old Oil Painting Renoir

    Ah, Gypsy . . . . a million here, a million there . . . pretty soon we're talking real money. Will you still remember us here at TN after you sell it and are rich and famous?

    Hobo
    Yep, ya find a lot of bones while diggin for treasure.  Works for me!
    Ace 250

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    Smoothy

    Aug 2006
    Eastern Shore, MD
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    Re: Old Oil Painting Renoir

    For a very brief moment in my life, I was an art history major. That, and having stayed at a Holiday Inn Express should back up my fine knowldege of such things . I realize you're just trying to find out what the hecky-darn you have there. Not an "I'm going to sell it straight away' attitude. I understand. One thing to consider is insurance for such a thing- whether it's an origional or a fine reproduction. So the 'value' of such a thing IS important to know, regardless of your intentions (or what might be thought to be your intentions )
    As with all things of possible value- VALUE-, it's best-- always best-- to take it to a pro. They can analyze the paint (very important, as paints are made with different bases and substances-- it's nearly alchemy when you come right down to it...different 'special' oils, spit, plant goo-- each 'mix' is unique in the true 'oldies', while the newer stuff is created, for the most part by mass-production- and easily id'ed as such, by an expert). Next, most artists stretched (mounted) their own canvases, so that's not unusual. The edges would be messy because often, they would paint the canvas on a temporary frame. Canvases would be removed, restretched- or rolled up for transport. Signiture is important- and again, can only be discerned by a real pro. Like analyzing handwriting, they can tell, usually, whether a signiture is forged or not- by the brush strokes, the shape and direction of a letter, etc.
    Bottom line? If you want to spend some bucks, you can know the truth about your beautiful painting. BUCKS. Good luck, whatever you decide to do!
    Thank you, God, for this good day.  Wonder what the sea spits out today!

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    Re: Old Oil Painting Renoir

    You ever find out about this?

  11. #11
    au
    Mar 2007
    Queensland, Australia
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    Re: Old Oil Painting Renoir

    Bump.....
    Yes any info ?

  12. #12
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    Gypsyheart~ Queen of Rust

    Nov 2005
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    Re: Old Oil Painting Renoir

    No....Its still hanging in my bedroom and I still like it....I guess I will just pass it on to my children.....and when they find out that its a original ...they will say "Why the heck were we living on Weiner Water Soup all those years?......."
    I go a great distance,while some are considering whether they will start today or tomorrow

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    Re: Old Oil Painting Renoir

    Go to the antique road show web site.I think you could send them a picture and they might tell you if it is real.Or take to an art dealer.Big bucks

  14. #14
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    Jul 2005
    N Louisiana
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    Re: Old Oil Painting Renoir

    It's pretty, whatever its worth. Enjoy it. But ... stranger things have happened. -Noodle
    Dear Lord, lest I continue in my complacent ways, help me to remember that someone died for me today. And if there be war, help me to remember to ask and to answer "am I worth dying for?" - Eleanor Roosevelt

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    Oct 2006
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    Re: Old Oil Painting Renoir

    I'm gonna give you one more poke with that stick they have been urging you on with. I know it's a pretty big step because I have been trying to get someone local to check a painting out for me. You have to pay a pretty good sum just to get a pro to look at it. I am going to see if I can find that link I had where they would give a free appraisal. You would have to take close-ups of the signature and so on...I'll get back to you if I can find it.


    I found it.....Good luck to you

    http://americanartappraisals.com/



    DANGLANGLEY
    A bird in the hand Will leave you a present

  16. #16
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    Gypsyheart~ Queen of Rust

    Nov 2005
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    Re: Old Oil Painting Renoir

    DANGLANGLEY,
    Thanks .....I have it wrapped and packed right now....but I will contact these people....aprreciate the link

    Rich Gypsy.....formerly known as gypsyheart.....LOL
    I go a great distance,while some are considering whether they will start today or tomorrow

  17. #17

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    Re: Old Oil Painting Renoir

    Gypsy, You said that the painting was signed RENOIR. When a student coppies a painting he is NOT allowed to copy the signature. So if an old painting is signed, it may be real!

  18. #18
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    Gypsyheart~ Queen of Rust

    Nov 2005
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    Re: Old Oil Painting Renoir


    If I find out this is real I am going to throw one heck of a Tnet party.......
    I go a great distance,while some are considering whether they will start today or tomorrow

  19. #19
    us
    Jan 2005
    Great Falls, Montana
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    Re: Old Oil Painting Renoir

    Quote Originally Posted by Gypsy Heart

    If I find out this is real I am going to throw pone heck of a Tnet party.......
    Yehaw!! Can we have the fancy Kraft macaroni and cheese with the packets of cheese sauce...and cocktail wieners instead of hot dogs??

  20. #20
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    Re: Old Oil Painting Renoir

    Mona Lisa... you said; " wieners ".

 

 
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