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[ECS]

The "2nd year of the Confederate War" is the most important year in relation to the story in the 1885 Beale Papers, for that is when Robert Morriss "revealed" the Beale treasure story, and the entire BEALE PAPERS is based on the word of the "unknown author" that this event actually happened.
Morriss was living at his widow Saunders niece's home when the Beale story was told, and during this time, the Saunders's home was used as a Confederate hospital. This is not mentioned in the Beale Papers.

 

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[Rebel - KGC]

THAT is why you need to know the LOCAL L'burg, Va. HISTORY...

 

[ECS]

"IT WAS DURING THE SECOND YEAR OF THE CONFEDERATE WAR"

THAT is why you need to know the LOCAL L'burg, Va. HISTORY...

..."about this time, however, affairs of importance required my presence in Richmond"
James Beverly Ward was Quarter master of the CSA Lynchburg Home Guard as Captain, which was mustered into the CSA 11th INFANTRY REGIMENT-field officers CSA Col Kirkwood Otey and CSA Major J R Hutter.
Ward also joined DOVE LODGE #51 in Richmond and created "TABLES OF DISTANCES FROM PRINCIPLE POINTS IN THE CONFEDERATE STATES" for RITCHIE & DUNNAVANT PRINTING, Richmond, who were major printers for the Confederacy.

Lucy Mina Norvell Otey went to Richmond with a petition to CSA President Jefferson Davis for the establishment of the LADIES RELIEF HOSPITAL on Main Street.
Her son, CSA Capt George Gaston Otey, Harriet Emmaline Otey Ward's 2nd cousin, was mortally wounded at the Battle of Lewisburg, WV, May 23, 1862, taken to a Richmond hospital where he died, his body was picked up by family and returned to Lynchburg, October, 1862.

Max Guggenheimer is discharged from the Confederate army as being "disabled".

A lot of "affairs of importance" in Lynchburg during the 2nd year of the Confederate War".

 

[cw0909]

anyone ever run across this beale



Daily Evening Herald and Commercial Advertiser

 

[ECS]

A Jas Beale from Boutetourt, Virginia at the City Hotel in St Louis, Missouri on October 22, 1835.
Interesting, but is he connected to the Beale treasure story?
Thomas Beale Jr's mother , Chloe Delancy, was from Botetourt county, Virginia. but there was a Beale family from Botetourt that moved to Missouri.
...and has been discussed on other threads.

 

[cw0909]

A Jas Beale from Boutetourt, Virginia at the City Hotel in St Louis, Missouri on October 22, 1835.
Interesting, but is he connected to the Beale treasure story?
Thomas Beale Jr's mother , Chloe Delancy, was from Botetourt county, Virginia. but there was a Beale family from Botetourt that moved to Missouri.
...and has been discussed on other threads.

dont know was hoping that info was here somewhere, more digging i guess LOL

 

[cw0909]

it copied with live links click a name

SURNAME	PRENAME	DATE OF BURIAL	ACCOUNT HOLDER
Ward	Infant of James B.	1852	James B. Ward
Ward	Infant of James B.	1867	James B. Ward
Ward	James	1893	Dingee Weinman & Co
Ward	James A.	1887	Alfred Morriss
Ward	James Beverley	1907	C. B. Ward, brothers and sisters
Ward	James E	1935	W. L. Wright
Ward	Son of James B.	1856	James B. Ward

Diuguid Burial Records | Old City Cemetery | Lynchburg, VA

 

[cw0909]

James Beverley Ward lived at 105 Harrison at the time of his death



http://www.gravegarden.org/diuguid/images/books/15/D15_135.jpg

 

[ECS]

105 Harrison Street house was built in 1887, is in the Garland Hill district, AND is still standing.
Not the house where Sarah Mitchell Morriss passed away, nor was the Ward house during the "2nd year of the Confederate War", nor where the "unknown author" presented the Beale manuscript to Ward.
Still, a good find.
Google the address for a house photo.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

It IS! Can he find where "JB" Ward infants are buried...? Even "JB" & Harriet Ward...?

 

[Rebel - KGC]

105 Harrison Street is near the Holland Tunnel (Rail Road Tracks) & Holland Dam for a Mill (Grist?) back in "the old days"...

 

[cw0909]

It IS! Can he find where "JB" Ward infants are buried...? Even "JB" & Harriet Ward...?

says what cemetery in the img i cant read it, H...t... hill

 

[cw0909]

has this letter been hashed over
the letter that was written, at bufords tavern in oct.1810
and remained @ bufords post office for 74 yrs,was written by William G Minor

Richmond dispatch., July 16, 1884, Image 2
Richmond dispatch. (Richmond, Va.) 1884-1903, July 16, 1884, Image 2 « Chronicling America « Library of Congress

 

[Rebel - KGC]

The Blackfords were well respected ppl/writers in L'burg, Va. during the CONFEDERATE WAR...

 

[ECS]

... Robert Morris was 76 years old that would have made him born about 1774---------however the story in the Job Print Pamphlet says he was born in 1778 in Maryland. Here again this also is WRONG as the Census records say he was born in Virginia as did Sarah his wife. In this same Census Record of 1850, Sarah Morris was 64 years old, born say in 1786. Sarah would have been 17 years old when her and Robert were reported married in Loudoun County, Virginia in 1803. Back in those days you had to get a marriage certificate from the Governor of Virginia and you had to pay a high price for it...

I wish posters would take this thread started by Kentucky Kache to post only facts instead of wishful thinking.

So if Robert Morriss of the Beale Papers was born in Virginia as you stated above, then that is further proof that he is NOT related to Robert Morris Jr, a signer of the Declaration of Independence.

 

[cw0909]

this is prob not the pamphlet morriss,just more to
mull over,beale was not @ this morriss when the census
was taken,it started in aug. & ran into sept. 1821
see link. the #s for free white males,show 2 @ 26
yrs of age or under,but not younger than 16 yrs
& 1 free white male 45 and over. in 1820 our morriss
would have been 32, if the obit of May 21, 1865 is
our morriss. this morriss must have had $$,as no one
on the census engaged in,Agriculture,Commerce or
Manufactures, yet had 9 slaves

census info
https://www.census.gov/history/www/through_the_decades/overview/1820.html

i grouped the counts, from the original layout @ link
b/c i couldnt get the wp program to work right

Morriss, Robert
0 0 0 2 0 1
1 3 0 2 0
0 0 0 0
3 0 1 0
2 1 2 0
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Census_Year 1820
Microfilm # Microcopy 33, Roll 129
State Virginia
County Campbell
District: Lynchburg Town pp. 111-121, County pp. 121-150
Enumerators: John R.D.Payne,M.Davis

http://files.usgwarchives.net/va/campbell/census/1820cens.txt


Names
of
heads of families..Morriss, Robert

Free White Males
Free white males under ten years- to 10...0
Free white males of ten and under sixteen... 0
Free white males between sixteen and eighteen...0
Free white males of sixteen and under
twenty-six, including heads of families....2
Free white males of twenty six and under
forty-five, including heads of families...0
Free white males of forty five and
upwards, including heads of families....1

Free white females
Free white females under ten years....1
Free white females of ten and under sixteen...3
Free white females of sixteen and under
twenty-six, including heads of families....0
Free white Females of twenty six and under
forty-five, including heads of families....2
Free white females of forty five and
upwards, including heads of families.....0

Foreigners not naturalized...0
Numbers of persons engaged...0
in Agriculture
Numbers of persons engaged...0
in Commerce
Numbers of persons engaged...0
in Manufactures

male slaves
Males under fourteen...3
Males of fourteen and
under twenty-six....0
Males of twenty-six and
under forty-five.....1
Males of forty-five and upward....0

female slaves
Females under fourteen....2
Females of fourteen and
under twenty-six........1
Females of twenty-six and
under forty-five.........2
Females of forty-five and upwards...0

free colored persons of
any age male or female....0
pdf blank 1820
https://c.mfcreative.com/SSS_INS/1.0.579/AIC/Cdn/Pdf/1820.pdf

 

[cw0909]

It IS! Can he find where "JB" Ward infants are buried...? Even "JB" & Harriet Ward...?

maybe some one can read JBWs place of burial
forgot the link to img
http://www.gravegarden.org/diuguid/images/books/15/D15_135.jpg

 

[cw0909]

anyone going to lynchburg, i found the land tax records
but they are on film @ the LPL

 

[franklin]

anyone going to lynchburg, i found the land tax records
but they are on film @ the LPL

View attachment 1456879

Rebel KGC can check it out. I have found a better way but I have not tested it yet. It will cost me about $500. but if successful I won't have to travel.

 

[franklin]

maybe some one can read JBWs place of burial
forgot the link to img
http://www.gravegarden.org/diuguid/images/books/15/D15_135.jpg

View attachment 1456878

It says Major James Beverly Ward is to be buried at Hunter's Hill. That is the old Risque Plantation. JBW lived on 159 acres of the land and his mother lived on 35 acre tract and another 146 acres was unimproved. They had to sell all of the land to settle debts in 1872 but retained the cemetery property as always. It also says JBW was buried by wife. The grave digger looks like John Halley.