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Aug 18, 2012, 08:15 PM
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History of the buford family and tavern
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Aug 18, 2012 08:15 PM
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Aug 18, 2012, 08:20 PM
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Last edited by Kenjmor2006; Aug 18, 2012 at 08:26 PM.
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Aug 19, 2012, 06:44 AM
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THANKS, "Kenj"... GREAT R & I resources; have utilized them! Coffee?
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Aug 19, 2012, 10:29 AM
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 http://www.etsy.com/shop/LagoonRiver
Thaxton & Scott families also had some very interesting ties.
"The key to finding gold is finding places where it can be accessed."
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Aug 19, 2012, 12:57 PM
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Aug 19, 2012, 06:11 PM
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Paschal buford still owned buford tavern in 1862,does this tell us that maby rebel is close to being right about confederate gold? Because Robert Morriss did not own or run the tavern in 1822 and in the beale papers Beale claims he went and stayed at bufords?
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Aug 19, 2012, 06:19 PM
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 Originally Posted by Kenjmor2006
Paschal buford still owned buford tavern in 1862,does this tell us that maby rebel is close to being right about confederate gold? Because Robert Morriss did not own or run the tavern in 1822 and in the beale papers Beale claims he went and stayed at bufords?
The BEALE PAPERS said TBJ & Associates (FIRST) stayed at Buford's for @ one month; then TJB & @ 2 others went on to Lynchburg, Va. to "board" at the home of Robert Morriss; Washington Inn/House/Hotel was not built until @ 1823.
What Buford had in @ 1862 was LOCUST LEVEL; THAT is where Gen. Robert E. Lee "over-nited" in @ 1869. Remains of Buford's Tavern was/is nearby.
Last edited by Rebel - KGC; Aug 19, 2012 at 06:21 PM.
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Aug 19, 2012, 06:24 PM
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I think Gen. Lee & Paschal Buford (friends) "roughed out" the BEALE PAMPHLET, in 1869.
Last edited by Rebel - KGC; Aug 19, 2012 at 07:04 PM.
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Aug 19, 2012, 06:27 PM
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After Gen. Lee died later in 1869, the info was "put away" until completed for 1885 release...
Last edited by Rebel - KGC; Aug 19, 2012 at 07:06 PM.
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Oct 10, 2012, 08:19 PM
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1885 release was "effort" of WRITER Ferdinand Hutter (CSA) with his cousin, JB Ward, as the AGENT for the author; JB got the "copy-right" for the BEALE PAPER(S). The HART PAPERS came later, with info from Sgt. Newton Hazlewood (CSA)... the cipher(s) ONLY. It was a story of two TH'ers (HART Bros.)... looking for a Treasure.
Last edited by Rebel - KGC; Oct 11, 2012 at 07:18 AM.
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Oct 13, 2012, 02:18 PM
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Is she referring to the Black Horse Tavern in Roanoke? -Thanks- Josh
Last edited by medicffjt; Oct 13, 2012 at 02:22 PM.
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Oct 13, 2012, 03:33 PM
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 Originally Posted by medicffjt
Is she referring to the Black Horse Tavern in Roanoke? -Thanks- Josh
Claudine? BHT (Roanoke) is NOT the same as Mountain Gate TOLL GATE "Tavern" on the BRP at Black Horse Gap; in fact, there are TWO BHT "listed". HA!
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Oct 15, 2012, 07:37 AM
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 Originally Posted by Rebel - KGC
Claudine? BHT (Roanoke) is NOT the same as Mountain Gate TOLL GATE "Tavern" on the BRP at Black Horse Gap; in fact, there are TWO BHT "listed". HA! 
I figured that were not the same place. But wasn't sure some information was confused. I was not awars of two Black Horse Taverns.
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Oct 15, 2012, 08:34 AM
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 Originally Posted by medicffjt
I figured that were not the same place. But wasn't sure some information was confused. I was not awars of two Black Horse Taverns.
YEP! One BHT was at the base of the Fincastle, Va. Turnpike (getting ready for the LONG, steep "climb" up the mountain... fresh horses, STRONG drinks; LOL!); Mountain Gate "Toll Gate" at the top of Black Horse Gap was ALSO known as BHT; the "gap" of the BHT at Mountain Gate can be seen on some videos as Black Horse Gap Bike Trail ("google it") In fact, the "downhill" video is so good, it makes ya feel like you are on one of those stage-coach "back then"... check it out! BLACK HORSE GAP BIKE TRAIL. AND! At one time, Dan Casey (Roanoke, Va.) had a WONDERFUL "still-pics" of the same road, with a "pic" of where the Gap Tavern was... I have even seen it myself; overgrown, etc. BUT! LOTS of "magic" there!
Last edited by Rebel - KGC; Oct 15, 2012 at 12:20 PM.
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Oct 15, 2012, 03:16 PM
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Claudine Fulton Ellis was talking about neither of those BHT there is another one.
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Oct 15, 2012, 04:40 PM
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 Originally Posted by franklin
Claudine Fulton Ellis was talking about neither of those BHT there is another one.
I know that you spent time talking with her; I know of only two. Care to share? THANKS!
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Oct 16, 2012, 10:02 AM
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The other BHT is in Roanoke near Tinker Creek. It's proprietor was TJB's partner that was wounded on the first expedition. He did not go back after the first deposit in 1819. Ebenezer Nelms was TJB's partner. TJB attended Eben's wedding in 1826 at the Peaks Presbyterian Church which still stands today.
The other BHT at the base of BRP was owned by G.P. Luck Family. I believe but am not sure that John Bumpess Luck was G. P. Luck's father?
The other BHT on top of the BRP was ran by a man last name of Black, he was kin to Paschal Buford's brother in law the Kent Family that lived in North Goose Creek. The Black farm was two farms below Jimmy Luck's dairy farm and directly above the farm of G.P. Luck. I talked to Mr. Black's granddaughter before she passed away, she told me how the BHT got it's name. She said her grandfather was riding across the mountain on the road where the BHT now stands----she said his horse fell and broke it's leg, Mr. Black had to shoot his prized and favorite horse which was not black in color only that it belonged to Mr. Black. That is how BHT got it's name from a horse that was shot by Mr. Black. Mr. Black's gd married a Bower and it was the farm of Sanford Bower where the Ice House was located where one treasure hunter claimed the BT was hidden in the Ice House but was now gone.
The old road went by the Sanford Bower house up a hollow and across Murrell's Gap where the mail was carried to Liberty, Va over 200 years ago. That is one of the places I dug for the BT up the hollow on the left side of the creek. Mel Fisher had already been there in 1989.
Last edited by franklin; Oct 16, 2012 at 10:04 AM.
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Oct 16, 2012, 01:33 PM
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THANKS, franklin; re-reading Claudine's book, now.
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Dec 16, 2012, 02:25 PM
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BTW; WHAT did you find, when YOU dug "on the left side of the creek"? INTERESTING...
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Dec 16, 2012, 02:36 PM
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He stayed at the comfortable quarters of his home. Was Morriss's home the tavern. 1806 or earlier,Bufords.
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