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    Quote Originally Posted by bigscoop View Post
    I don't think it works that way.
    Oh....and it works by flooding the site with "History" from another time? Just to "Offer Insight" into your creation of a new roundabout explanation of how to make sense of codes you haven't broken.?

    Anyways me and Jean will just enjoy the actual solves with Ken Bauman.........as we are finishing the filming this spring and are already booked producing podcasts and other film options.....

    You can just watch it all unfold then......I dont think you deserve to even see you are being a fool, you seem to do nothing but offer a laugh and a "History Lesson" about your research...

    When did you ever try to work on the codes

    This subject is so tied up with BS that I ahve had to go internationally to find master codebreakers to verify my work,,,,,

    Guys who work on things like Kryptos........real codebreakers......not Armchair Historians sensationalizing their theories for their "oops" saga about what they forgot to study in school before their finals.
    But he who knows forms, is able to grasp the unity of nature beneath the surface of materials which are very unlike. Thus is he able to identify and bring about things that have never been done before, things of the kind which neither the vicissitudes of nature, nor hard experimenting, nor pure accident could ever have actualized, nor even human thought dreamed of. And thus from the discovery of the forms flows true speculation and unrestricted operation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldo View Post
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    Anyways me and Jean will just enjoy the actual solves with Ken Bauman.........as we are finishing the filming this spring and are already booked producing podcasts and other film options...
    Will this be "based on a true story" where Reavis meets Emerson and Poe by way of Jean Lafitte and they create the Beale Papers with Jacob Waltz about the Templar treasure being buried in Pennslyvania and Nova Scotia?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldo View Post
    Oh....and it works by flooding the site with "History" from another time? Just to "Offer Insight" into your creation of a new roundabout explanation of how to make sense of codes you haven't broken.?

    Anyways me and Jean will just enjoy the actual solves with Ken Bauman.........as we are finishing the filming this spring and are already booked producing podcasts and other film options.....

    You can just watch it all unfold then......I dont think you deserve to even see you are being a fool, you seem to do nothing but offer a laugh and a "History Lesson" about your research...

    When did you ever try to work on the codes

    This subject is so tied up with BS that I ahve had to go internationally to find master codebreakers to verify my work,,,,,

    Guys who work on things like Kryptos........real codebreakers......not Armchair Historians sensationalizing their theories for their "oops" saga about what they forgot to study in school before their finals.
    When "real code breakers" resort to being the only ones who continue to bump their theories to the top, well, it's like putting the already dead on life support. Period! Enough said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldo View Post
    ...and it works by flooding the site with "History" from another time...
    Mentioning history does bring forth the question whether or not the Beale expedition as related in the pamphlet ever occurred, and if it did not, the ciphers are meaningless construction of the Beale Papers' author.
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    What is meaningless is your repetitive drivel.......sorry you are nothing but an opinion after the fact here.

    Cry about it for three more pages then,....see what it looks like to a viewer watching you two trolls make fools of yourselves harassing someone for their legwork and offering of new information to the whole site...

    you two are neither the judges of another's work nor the only interested parties here....so good luck with that reputation to be chasing after

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    But he who knows forms, is able to grasp the unity of nature beneath the surface of materials which are very unlike. Thus is he able to identify and bring about things that have never been done before, things of the kind which neither the vicissitudes of nature, nor hard experimenting, nor pure accident could ever have actualized, nor even human thought dreamed of. And thus from the discovery of the forms flows true speculation and unrestricted operation.

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    Eldo end the insults.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldo View Post
    Special thanks going out to Jean Laf for his Beale Ciphers post.....

    and the addition of the The Simpson Papers

    Will be featured info in a few upcoming books and documentaries this year.

    (Edited by mods out of denial)


    PS ...having a hard time getting through to WIKI and someone keeps erasing the post there....will be back up soon
    So are you banned too?

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    Are trying to join that select group with all these useless bumps of old posts that add nothing to the discussion?
    I am sure a moderator will aid you in this endeavor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ECS View Post
    Are trying to join that select group with all these useless bumps of old posts that add nothing to the discussion?
    I am sure a moderator will aid you in this endeavor.
    I was banned for 6 months, just caching up here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ECS View Post
    Are trying to join that select group with all these useless bumps of old posts that add nothing to the discussion?
    I am sure a moderator will aid you in this endeavor.
    Are you a mod now?

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    ECS, your not a mod, stop the harassment now.

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    I have never claimed to be a mod, but I do have a question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean Laf View Post
    The Hart Papers are Fiction...
    Which would make Innis book fiction as she received her information from George Hart who also introduced her to an Otey family member who had an iron box with that numbers covered torn slip of paper.
    The same can be said of Ellis, who borrowed the PLANTERS HOTEL in St Louis reference in the Hart Papers.
    It is interesting that the 1885 BEALE PAPERS keeps generating new versions spun from the original fabric and the never ending '"real story behind the Beale story" alternatives clothed in gossamer fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ECS View Post
    Which would make Innis book fiction as she received her information from George Hart who also introduced her to an Otey family member who had an iron box with that numbers covered torn slip of paper.
    The same can be said of Ellis, who borrowed the PLANTERS HOTEL in St Louis reference in the Hart Papers.
    It is interesting that the 1885 BEALE PAPERS keeps generating new versions spun from the original fabric and the never ending '"real story behind the Beale story" alternatives clothed in gossamer fact.
    ECS, It is not that the Hart Papers, Innis' books or Ellis' book are fiction. These three you mentioned make no claims as being authentic or that they recovered a treasure. It is only their work and speculations on the solving of this mystery. Their works and others work can help us to either solve this mystery or come to a conclusion as to whether this is a treasure worth searching and hunting for or do we chalk it up to just being a story. Which is what you have already done. Let us make up our own minds about this treasure story as you have done. We can read pro and cons and still make up our own mind. Myself I could go either way as I have not completely made up my mind one way or the other. I know the Beale Party Expedition did not happen but that does not mean that these cipher codes could not be something that could lead us to another large treasure such as the CSA Treasury. We need some documented letters, diaries or journals that may shed some light on the matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldo View Post
    Oh...

    Anyways me and Jean will just enjoy the actual solves with Ken Bauman...
    Franklin, what is your opinion the "actual solves" and/or "real story behind the Beale story" presented by the above?
    All these "solves" and "real stories behind the Beale story" have all been different, all being based on the preconceived expectations of the cipher solver or researcher.
    The reason I mention the Harts, Innis, Ellis was to present examples on how the original Beale story was expanded upon by this speculation, and this speculation continues to this day with no resolution in sight.
    ...and the answer as to why there is no resolution has been obvious for quite some time.
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