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With Legrand being RIGHT, the makes the Simpson Papers WRONG! :thumbsup:

What I said was the Beale was used for a second layer and operation, relating to the "unfinished cipher" of the ERE FENN DUE RED KNEE text strand that was found by running the Beale Cipher 2 through backwards....the KGC were not bound by a single thought of corruption, and the Beale held numerous ciphers and laid out their plan.

So here the Beale was used as a template that other ciphers were crafted around.

My "preposterous" theory, is sitting on the photo in plain sight, deriving a location " N 10 Miles, Otay Rd., Montvale, Luv Beverly "

There is that strange hint about the evidence showing this very "LUV BEVERLY" statement related to "James Beverly Ward"....and is the clue to show the book codes are used from the DOI in the Beale, to crack this cipher card, as well as hinting at similar treasure maps to locations that are coded. The Beale was finished in layer one, leaving a single area, but it talked about their being another message passed on, at a later time.....this card I believe is that message.

FDR was also on Oak Island, and one of the major locations of carvings and markings was taken from Bedford Basin, Nova Scotia was laid in conjunction with the same templates of ciphers in terraformed marks in Bedford, VA as well.

So it all is finally being seen as the pieces are matched to their corresponding identities.

1) Beale was crafted as a Template with one translated cipher and two unfinished ones. No evidence could be found to translate them as of this date, to lead to a supposed trove.
2) Beale leads to the mining operations out west and correlates to the maps of the Peralta Stones, and the KGC operations in Arizona, and the Apache/Dine/Hopi Removal Plans. Reavis arrested and the 30 men murdered to cover their trail.
3) Beale was created with the talk of a second location, as well as a second correspondence to be arriving at a later time for the use of the "Red Knee", or Wounded Knee Mining Operations in the South Dakota Black Hills
4) Beale C2 was solved, but when run backwards, it revealed a single phrase, and a strand of an Alphabet, which master cryptographers say was intentional but had no value in the codes at that time, as no variables would produce clear plaintext
5) Beale then was later used as a template, as instructed, to create a use for the Black Hills deposits in the hills a few dozen miles from Bedford

N 10 Miles,
Otay Rd.,
Montvale,
Luv Beverly

Leads right to a place called the "Acadia" Forrest in Virginia

In the case of FDR and his Oak Island adventures, he explored and documented one area called Bedford Basin, near Halifax, with the same marks from the carvings there used in the first troves of Beale, and the second one is called Acadia?

Beale Mapa.jpg

How strange that the Peralta Stones say to "Look for the Map, Look for the Heart" and that they lead to these same areas in Virginia
 

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Here is the statement in the Beale that directly says what they planned to do, to pass this on and to wait for further codes that matched to come through in a second correspondence. The phrase is taken from the Beale and is hidden in the old manners of hiding instructions in worded phrases and sentences

Beale Proof of Multi Layered Ciphers.jpg

As Ken Bauman calls it Literary Steganography.

I did exactly as instructed in the statement above, and arranged them according to their length (columnar arrangements), being from unintelligible papers with numbers all over them (as shown in the cipher card)......using these themes, they both identify the methods and show that there is a template to use from the Beale in the Numbers Coding.

The reason that I know its not just a freak accident that they line up is the phrase Bauman created by running them backwards was also a key left behind for the second layer.
Ere Fenn Due Red Knee
EFDRK
FDR + KE Patterns


These are the key patterns found in the first segment to arrange their order as instructed in a card sent to FDR.....its obvious.....the Ciphertext in the card says 4-E's so I make their length 4 letters and go from there to find the breakdown and realignment.

Its a standard coding method and nothing is added to force any complications to work, they are all fluent and directed by guides and other methods of instruction.
 

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Eldo, calling you theory preposterous is the only non speculative statement on your above post #21.
 

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Here is the statement in the Beale that directly says what they planned to do, to pass this on and to wait for further codes that matched to come through in a second correspondence. The phrase is taken from the Beale and is hidden in the old manners of hiding instructions in worded phrases and sentences
As Ken Bauman calls it a Literary Steganography...
...do you still claim that James Reavis wrote the Beale Papers, or has Ken Bauman convinced you otherwise?
The more you quote Bauman, the SIMPSON PAPERS loses more of the little credibility it had. :thumbsup:
 

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Never said Charles Reavis was involved

sorry ECS
 

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Eldo,

Can not you see how preposterous this claim is about the Secret Service and FDR. The Beale Papers were copyrighted in 1885 and James Beverly Ward sent in for the copyright in 1884. FDR would have been only two years old. So who was going to kill FDR in his cradle? You need something better than this?


Remember that almost all of the leaders of the US have blood ties back to England's royal lines.....

These were very corrupt affairs that were being plotted over a period of time which I have clearly stated. Do you think that after James Reavis was caught and that the men were all killed off in the desert that these men would simply hide in a corner?

They were the most powerful bankers in the world at the times, and had orchestrated a major post civil war operation to fill their banks with bullion as they continually robbed the Union shipments of pay and gold to cripple their supply chains, as a strategy that was known around the country at the time.

What do you think the KGC were doing? Making Fried Chicken?

The creation of a form of political nepotism, granting the same "American Family" their "prestige" and the power that was "chosen" by their "electoral college" once they had gained financial control of the US was also solidified for decades with the selection of certain people that they wanted to continue their plans into the new century.

Teddy Roosevelt was "In Power" during the times, after the creation of the Beale, and obviously was keen to the affairs of the KGC as well as the case of the Peralta Land Grab in AZ, and JAMES REAVIS.....

JAMES REAVIS is the master forger that I had said was clearly mentioned in the Beale, so stop changing it to "Charles" Reavis and acting confused.

Having dined on the elegance of JP Morgan AKA Robert Morris in the Beale, he was sent to conduct the operations there in the first segment in the Beale while they planned their other affairs to take control over the territories......with the timing behind and the "New Territories" being discussed, later being involved with the Police Unions in NYC, and then going onto be the President, I am sure that he was tasked with allowing the govt to "grow" out west while he remained geared to take over the Spanish controlled lands and other affairs of their proposed "Continental Congress"

His face is even featured on Mt Rushmore....in the Black Hills.....for these victories....

So you trying to tell me there isn't some form of nepotism going on that has landed these men in these positions that were overseers of these affairs?

When the Beale was written, Franklin Roosevelt was only 2, but Teddy was a good 37 yo and was coincidentally on a Hunting and Trapping frontier adventure in North Dakota from 1884 onward until the winter of 1886-7

He reoriented, and began writing about frontier life for national magazines; he also published three books – Hunting Trips of a Ranchman, Ranch Life and the Hunting-Trail, and The Wilderness Hunter
 

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What did the Beale specifically speak about again?

A Hunting Party and 3 book codes.....hmmmmmm
 

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Legrand (Ken Bauman) was right...
"I'm afraid that the Beale Papers mystery is just a fable..." Legrand, July 27, 2008
...and now you are creating additional "fables" which include every treasure legend, story combined with assorted conspiracy theories thrown in for good measure and you wonder why this is not taken seriously.
Really?
 

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"I'm afraid that the Beale Papers mystery is just a fable..." Legrand, July 27, 2008
...and now you are creating additional "fables" which include every treasure legend, story combined with assorted conspiracy theories thrown in for good measure and you wonder why this is not taken seriously.
Really?

Just cause the story is a fable, doesn't mean that there isn't a backstory or a behind the scenes meaning with actual maps tied into it all.....
 

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Just cause the story is a fable, doesn't mean that there isn't a backstory or a behind the scenes meaning with actual maps tied into it all.....
The real backstory has been discussed many times on these threads.
James Beverly Ward borrowed from many eclectic sources, extended family histories and events, Poe and Shakespeare, E F Beale's and William Clark's journals, news articles on found treasure in a Kentucky cave, etc.
In addition to Ward knowing the real backstory, was his wife Harriet, cousin John William Sherman, who printed the dime novel pamphlet from the handwritten manuscript, cousin F C Hutter, friend Max Guggenheimer, mentioned in the dime novel, and Charles W Button, LYNCHBURG VIRGINIAN newspaper owner.
Others are Pascal Buford's children, Rowland, Ann, and Margaret.

That's it Eldo, NO fantastic fantasy fabricated fable backstory that are continued to be promoted due to the lack of actual evidence outside of Beale Papers dime novel that can confirm anything in the Beale narrative story, much less the ciphers.
THE SIMPSON PAPERS is a prime example of creative connections of unrelated legends, lore, conspiracies combined to make a "NEW" version of the Beale story with the substance of diaphanous vapors.
 

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500 Lego Blocks, and they don't have to use them all.....just what can be made to workout for their preconceived notions. Is it any wonder that others of like mind have found relevance in the other completely random numbers and story unknowns within. It is a repetitive pattern, a type of "hidden algorithm", if you will.....:laughing7:
 

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More Backstory that you all took like bait......

That's obvious
 

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Creative backstory fabrication of history ...
That has always been obvious.
Have you found more "TJB" initials carved into the American landscape?
 

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Creative backstory fabrication of history ...
That has always been obvious.
Have you found more "TJB" initials carved into the American landscape?

(Sounds of Broken Record Skipping Along)
 

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More Backstory that you all took like bait......

That's obvious
What is obvious is why you haven't taken up Singlestack Wonder's offer on the Oak Island threads of funding a climb to that TEMPLAR VAULT you constantly claim you found. :laughing7:
 

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Legrand (Ken Bauman) was right...there is a second layer of the Beale and the Papers leave unanswered coded info to be LATER used for another layer of their operations.

Legrand found ERE FENN DUE RED KNEE running the ciphers through in reverse, and even showed the results on Brad Meltzer's Decoded.

You are all going to have to apologize to him for the banter....LOL

FDR was later sent a specific card that threatened the president with a blatant and obvious cipher, as well as having a book code added across the top, with invisible writing continuing through the card.

The Ciphertext section was made into a confusing set of letters.

In this section there was a series of words that were used to unlock the cipher and the acrostic here from ERE FENN DUE RED KNEE is E FDR E

The phrase ERE FENN DUE RED KNEE held the message that left the initials of the person that it was all left for, as they had chosen a particular person to carry on their second world war !!!

It also showed that there was a series of repeating patterns to look for in the E's (here being the most common letter) with 8 E's.......Ken claims that there are 8 locations as well

The cipher in the card then goes onto be decoded to say that there is a major breakdown using the patterns that are recognized by following these repeating patterns, using them to restructure the card using columnar reassignment systems, going from a 4 column to a 6 column, and back to a 4 column layout. The whole while the repeating patterns are practically speaking in tongues about the newly formed OPUS DEI, and other things like EDIson's Menlo Park Location.....

Everyone was tripping over the times that Ken's research was centered around and this proves that once again there was a series of operations .......
Could ELDO be another team member of 81618 "Legrand"?
They given each other numbers and taken away their names!
Reminds of an old Johnny Rivers song.
 

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