🥇 BANNER Bottle with a note inside 5 to 6 inches deep in the ground.

[Bramblefind]

I'm still stuck on Iowa. I missed this before but Anton Holets' wife was Anna Zahradnik.

 

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[Ditlihi]

And one more thing before I forget. The "Wives". They are central to the note, and IF this was CCC related, they would not have been inside the camp property. Meaning the altercation must have occurred during a furlough? Did the CCC even have furloughs?

 

[Ditlihi]

I'm still stuck on Iowa. I missed this before but Anton Holets' wife was Anna Zahradnik.

Excellent catch!

 

[Ditlihi]

I'm still stuck on Iowa. I missed this before but Anton Holets' wife was Anna Zahradnik.

Just searched Anton Holets.....guess what? He's in the same database as the others.

 

[Bramblefind]

And see here in the 1895 Iowa Census, Linn County

Frank Hubachek is living right next door to Joseph Holets and son Anton.

 

[Ditlihi]

And see here in the 1895 Iowa Census, Linn County

Frank Hubachek is living right next door to Joseph Holets and son Anton.

That's awesome, Bramble! Best connection yet.

 

[Iron Buzz]

Egads I just got sucked into reading this entire thread. Pretty nifty. I do not have the time to get sucked in but my two cents on the CCC Rolls and someone getting a Cabin stolt would be that the boss would have a cabin provided with their pay. If a Green horn were coming up to take over the old boss would lose the cabin and have to move out to make room for the new guy. This was the depression era and someone could (and did) get their heads knocked in for something like this.

That pretty much fits with, and adds to, my current theory about this. And yeah, the wives and girlfriends might be very pissed too, if their man got passed over for a promotion.

 

[Iron Buzz]

This is research at its finest!

 

[Iron Buzz]

Let's not forget that much of the CCC's work involved quarried stone, and the bottle was found at the quarry site.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Great play-by-play. Great pix. Fun story. Congratz on banner. I was hoping the note was going to say "Payable to the bearer: $1,000,000 in Shell oil stock", haha

 

[fyrffytr1]

Of the two Hubaceks above, im going with the one who worked for wagnor and was married to mary and had two children living with them
thats the one i posted earlier in the thread, they are all buried in the same cemetery in wadena county minnesota.

fyrffytr1, are you having trouble with the family search site, i cant get the original census to come up, i can do
way better detective work when I can see those also the original draft registration every male in america had to
sign up for the draft, Ive seen kids as young as 12 and lod geezers in their 90's signed up for the 1917 draft
and you can jog through and find other people in the same area that signed up and more often than not where they worked.

it was working fine last week then they worked on it, maybe i need to report it, one of these days im going to get ancestry.com back
if you have that and fold three, newspspers.com, and newspaper archives.com and findagrave then you can search some history.

You may have to register before you can use the site. It is free. I have traced my family back to the 1500s in Switzerland using it.

 

[coinman123]

You may have to register before you can use the site. It is free. I have traced my family back to the 1500s in Switzerland using it.

Cool, and interesting coincidence, my family on my dad's side was from Switzerland during the middle ages until the early 1900's when my grandparent came over to... Argentina. I did some research on my ancestors and figured out that in the 1200's there was a castle (long gone by now probably) belonging to some of my ancestors. There is a genealogy book from my dad somewhere... It is very interesting to trace back your family, perhaps your ancestors knew mine at some point back in the 1500's, very cool research! Ancestry.com is fun!

 

[Roger Mn.]

I think I see 361 27 78 23 (1st could be simply 36 and a smudge). Are you thinking 36-27-7823?

At the top of the sheet above the number 361 Soup Bones '27 Corned Beef ,78 Veal Roast , 23 Veal Cutlets .
These are Totals at the bottom.

 

[BIGSCOTT]

on those census for hubachek and holets what does it say they were doing for a living, and where exactly were they living.

 

[BIGSCOTT]

fyrffytr1 i am registered, and ys times when i have been broke like now, i have used the free sites to find alot of history but
minesnot working, i e-mailed them and they gave me some suggestions that didnt work, and a number to call for help guess ill call tomorrow.

 

[BIGSCOTT]

Bramblefind, youve got the key right there, just a starting point but read it closely and it will lead us to what we are searching for, THE TRUTH

 

[trdking]

Cool, and interesting coincidence, my family on my dad's side was from Switzerland during the middle ages until the early 1900's when my grandparent came over to... Argentina. I did some research on my ancestors and figured out that in the 1200's there was a castle (long gone by now probably) belonging to some of my ancestors. There is a genealogy book from my dad somewhere... It is very interesting to trace back your family, perhaps your ancestors knew mine at some point back in the 1500's, very cool research! Ancestry.com is fun!

My Great grandparents were from Bern, Thailweil, Switzerland immigrated to Minnesota in 1905. We also could be related

 

[BIGSCOTT]

Lots of Zahradnik's in linn county Iowa, Holets to and they carried that name Anton Down through the generations
on the Holet side and the Zahradnik side, quite a few in Mower county Minnesota the next county over from Olmstead
county where Rochester is, in Quarry hill park there is a cemetery from the asylum, mostly unmarked graves although
there is an ongoing project to name as many as possible, from there a greenbelt and patch of woods follows Silver Creek
a few hundred yards to another cemetery Calvary which used to be called St John's, Buried there is a
James David Zahradnik sr. Jan 10th 1938 - July 20 2005, his wife is still alive and lives in Rochester
Also in that same cemetery is Marie Diane Holets she just died back in febuary of this year and her Husband joe is still alive
but i dont know where he lives, there were quit a few Zahradnik's living in Wisconsin but mostly in millwakee
I am find a corruption of that name to Ouradnik, my family search isnt working right so i dont know if they changed their name
or the auto reader read it wrong.

 

[BIGSCOTT]

Hope you guys can keep this going I will be out of synch tomorrow, less than a mile from where im sitting there is water
rushing into 2nd story windows, gonna go help all I can the cops shut us down tonight, we went around and were gonna put in at a differnt place
but the water was running to fast and we would have had to navigate through treetops, tonight we passed alot of houses that had a foot of so
of water in them but the people didnt want to leave, you cant hardly blame them the shelters are overwhelmed and will not be pretty places in a couple of days
but we are high and dry here havnt even lost power of course that could change too, harvey has moved back into the gulf and gained a little strength
the weather media says its right on the coast, but if you go to a good interactive radar and put it into motion it looks like it is about a hundred miles
offshore and a little east of houston it is forecast to make it's third landfall tomorrow at 1:00 pm. at sabine pass right on the louisiana Texas border
this will put it closer to us and mean more wind but we will be on the cleaner side of the storm, and have an offshore flow.

 

[Blak bart]

Hope you guys can keep this going I will be out of synch tomorrow, less than a mile from where im sitting there is water
rushing into 2nd story windows, gonna go help all I can the cops shut us down tonight, we went around and were gonna put in at a differnt place
but the water was running to fast and we would have had to navigate through treetops, tonight we passed alot of houses that had a foot of so
of water in them but the people didnt want to leave, you cant hardly blame them the shelters are overwhelmed and will not be pretty places in a couple of days
but we are high and dry here havnt even lost power of course that could change too, harvey has moved back into the gulf and gained a little strength
the weather media says its right on the coast, but if you go to a good interactive radar and put it into motion it looks like it is about a hundred miles
offshore and a little east of houston it is forecast to make it's third landfall tomorrow at 1:00 pm. at sabine pass right on the louisiana Texas border
this will put it closer to us and mean more wind but we will be on the cleaner side of the storm, and have an offshore flow.

Good luck and god bless. Stay safe. Greatest thing ive ever seen is people like your self sacrificing to help others in this disaster. Great work from the folks of texas. Very inspirational to the rest of us. Makes me proud to be american !!