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    Jacob Spahn bottle

    My brother sent me photos of this old bottle that my father had in one of his sheds. I remember my Dad talking about it, but I don't recall where he got it from.
    Are there any bottle books that would list a value for it?
    It came with a stopper (pictured) and says, "Jacob Spahn - La Porte, Ind."
    Any info would be greatly appreciated.

    I found the following info on Jacob Spahn:

    JACOB SPAHN
    The local soda water, mineral water and ginger ale business is in the hands of Jacob Spahn, who makes everything in the line mentioned and supplies the trade of LaPorte and all the neighboring towns. He is a master in his branch of business and his customers understand that his goods have quality and his dealings are fair. His factory is at 601 Washington street at the corner of Clay, in a building specially constructed for the purpose. Mr. Spohn is a native of Chicago, the year of his birth being 1867, and it was in the Chicago public schools that he carried on his studies. Twelve years ago he came to this city to engage with G. H. Wagner in the bottling business under the firm name of Spahn & Wagner. This firm bought out the old established business of Charles Labes. In 1896 the firm was dissolved. Mr. Spahn continuing the business alone as the purchaser of Wagner's interest, and the trade has shown a perceptible increase every year. Mr. Spahn keeps posted and avails himself of all modern improved methods in manufacture, so that his product is at all times equal to any in the market. He is an Odd Fellow, a Knight of Pythias and an Eagle and personally he is an agreeable and popular gentleman, a faithful friend and a valuable citizen.


    ”History of LaPorte County, Indiana, and its Townships, Towns and Cities”
    Jasper Packard
    published by S. E. Taylor & Co., LaPorte, IN 1876


    Thanks,
    MM
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    Re: Jacob Spahn bottle

    Nice bottle, and you wonder if Jacob Spahn wrote his own biographical sketch for the publication mentioned! If so, he wasn't a very modest fellow.
    A gentleman farmer named Floyd
    With some of his kin was annoyed
    The boys in their youth
    Did not know the truth
    And one of his tools was destroyed

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    Re: Jacob Spahn bottle

    That isn't the stopper for this bottle, this bottle is an odd shaped Hutchinson bottle and had an internal stopper with rubber that you would push in to pour or drink and pull out to close....That stopper is for a perfume most likely....Jim


    here is what I mean....


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    Re: Jacob Spahn bottle

    It's unlisted on the sodasandbeers.com website so it may have a decent value, I'd say between $15-30.... To an Indy collector maybe more since it's not listed yet.....Jim
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    Re: Jacob Spahn bottle

    Quote Originally Posted by halfdime
    Nice bottle, and you wonder if Jacob Spahn wrote his own biographical sketch for the publication mentioned! If so, he wasn't a very modest fellow.
    Thnks HD.

    Quote Originally Posted by epackage
    That isn't the stopper for this bottle, this bottle is an odd shaped Hutchinson bottle and had an internal stopper with rubber that you would push in to pour or drink and pull out to close....That stopper is for a perfume most likely....Jim


    here is what I mean....


    Jim,
    Thanks for that info. Very interesting method of opening & closing back then.
    Thank you,
    MM

    Quote Originally Posted by epackage
    It's unlisted on the sodasandbeers.com website so it may have a decent value, I'd say between $15-30.... To an Indy collector maybe more since it's not listed yet.....Jim
    Thanks Jim,
    That will at least give me an idea. I may buy it from my brother.
    -MM-
    Oldest coin - 1700's Spanish silver piece of 8 reale
    Oldest U.S. silver - 1833 Capped Bust Half Dime
    Oldest U.S. copper - 1847 Large cent
    Civil War best finds:
    *NC officers belt buckle
    *CSN Confederate Navy Officer button
    *Eagle Sword Belt Plate

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    Re: Jacob Spahn bottle

    These bottles sat in specially made crates upside down, the bottom of the crates were 2-3" off of the ground, they did this so the stoppers didn't get pushed in by accident letting out the gas. Can you tell me the size, it almost looks like a quart...

    I have about 350 bottles from Paterson NJ and there are around 100 in this style, there are more quart "Hutch" bottles from Paterson than any other city in the US....Jim
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    Re: Jacob Spahn bottle

    Here is a nice dated grouping of these bottles from a local bottler in my area, the first bottle is called a "Pony" type and then the hutch's begin.....

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    Re: Jacob Spahn bottle

    That does look like a quart. I'm not a hutch guy, is a quart sized hutch rare?, I've never seen one. I can say that the stopper shown is almost certainly from a Lea and Perrins sauce, which can be found in almost any TOC dump.
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    Re: Jacob Spahn bottle

    Quote Originally Posted by epackage
    These bottles sat in specially made crates upside down, the bottom of the crates were 2-3" off of the ground, they did this so the stoppers didn't get pushed in by accident letting out the gas. Can you tell me the size, it almost looks like a quart...

    I have about 350 bottles from Paterson NJ and there are around 100 in this style, there are more quart "Hutch" bottles from Paterson than any other city in the US....Jim
    Jim,
    Thanks for the additional info and amazing bottle pictures. Very impressive collection you have there.
    I e-mailed my brother this a.m. to get the measurements from the bottle. Stay tuned................
    -Doug-

    Oldest coin - 1700's Spanish silver piece of 8 reale
    Oldest U.S. silver - 1833 Capped Bust Half Dime
    Oldest U.S. copper - 1847 Large cent
    Civil War best finds:
    *NC officers belt buckle
    *CSN Confederate Navy Officer button
    *Eagle Sword Belt Plate

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    Re: Jacob Spahn bottle

    Quote Originally Posted by gleaner1
    That does look like a quart. I'm not a hutch guy, is a quart sized hutch rare?, I've never seen one. I can say that the stopper shown is almost certainly from a Lea and Perrins sauce, which can be found in almost any TOC dump.
    Thanks Gleaner.
    What is a TOC dump?
    -MM-
    Oldest coin - 1700's Spanish silver piece of 8 reale
    Oldest U.S. silver - 1833 Capped Bust Half Dime
    Oldest U.S. copper - 1847 Large cent
    Civil War best finds:
    *NC officers belt buckle
    *CSN Confederate Navy Officer button
    *Eagle Sword Belt Plate

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    us
    Sep 2010
    Woodland Park NJ
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    Re: Jacob Spahn bottle

    Quote Originally Posted by gleaner1
    That does look like a quart. I'm not a hutch guy, is a quart sized hutch rare?, I've never seen one. I can say that the stopper shown is almost certainly from a Lea and Perrins sauce, which can be found in almost any TOC dump.
    Not rare but many less were made compared the pints....you might be right about the stopper, it seems to be the most widley seen of that style......Jim
    Looking for PATERSON NJ BOTTLES!!!!

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    Sep 2010
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    Re: Jacob Spahn bottle

    Quote Originally Posted by ModernMiner
    Quote Originally Posted by gleaner1
    That does look like a quart. I'm not a hutch guy, is a quart sized hutch rare?, I've never seen one. I can say that the stopper shown is almost certainly from a Lea and Perrins sauce, which can be found in almost any TOC dump.
    Thanks Gleaner.
    What is a TOC dump?
    -MM-
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    Re: Jacob Spahn bottle

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    Re: Jacob Spahn bottle

    Hey Modern...Nice to see another post from ya. I have a guy here that I will talk to about that bottle. He has done some digging in Laporte and he may be able to get ya some more information. Its a long shot but I will ask him. It is a nice bottle. It is worth holding on to thats for sure. Stay warm my friend, the lake effect will be effecting my bones pretty soon here jgas
    JGAS

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    Re: Jacob Spahn bottle

    Quote Originally Posted by epackage
    Quote Originally Posted by ModernMiner
    Quote Originally Posted by gleaner1
    That does look like a quart. I'm not a hutch guy, is a quart sized hutch rare?, I've never seen one. I can say that the stopper shown is almost certainly from a Lea and Perrins sauce, which can be found in almost any TOC dump.
    Thanks Gleaner.
    What is a TOC dump?
    -MM-
    Turn of the Century
    Turn of the
    Ahhhh, that makes sense.
    Thanks,
    MM

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    Thanks Harry. You guys are going to get me hooked on old bottles soon.
    -MM-



    Oldest coin - 1700's Spanish silver piece of 8 reale
    Oldest U.S. silver - 1833 Capped Bust Half Dime
    Oldest U.S. copper - 1847 Large cent
    Civil War best finds:
    *NC officers belt buckle
    *CSN Confederate Navy Officer button
    *Eagle Sword Belt Plate

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    Re: Jacob Spahn bottle

    Quote Originally Posted by jgas
    Hey Modern...Nice to see another post from ya. I have a guy here that I will talk to about that bottle. He has done some digging in Laporte and he may be able to get ya some more information. Its a long shot but I will ask him. It is a nice bottle. It is worth holding on to thats for sure. Stay warm my friend, the lake effect will be effecting my bones pretty soon here jgas
    Jgas,
    Thanks for the help. I'm from LaPorte originally and still go back 4 or 5 times a year. It's home. Just got back a few weeks ago as a matter of fact. Going back in December too. Hopefully the ground won't be frozen yet.
    Where are you located? Has to be by Lake Michigan somewhere.
    Thanks,
    Doug
    Oldest coin - 1700's Spanish silver piece of 8 reale
    Oldest U.S. silver - 1833 Capped Bust Half Dime
    Oldest U.S. copper - 1847 Large cent
    Civil War best finds:
    *NC officers belt buckle
    *CSN Confederate Navy Officer button
    *Eagle Sword Belt Plate

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    The sprawling metropolis of South Bend! Digger Heaven.....so to speak jgas
    JGAS

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    Re: Jacob Spahn bottle

    Quote Originally Posted by jgas
    The sprawling metropolis of South Bend! Digger Heaven.....so to speak jgas
    LMAO!!!
    I hated seeing the speedway shut down there in South Bend. I have a lot of great memories of that place. I used to sell racing programs there for a friend of my Dad's back in the early 70's. I would make 25 cents for every one I sold. I thought I was making the big bucks then! Ya gotta love those demo derby's too.

    I have two or three old properties lined up back there. I'll stay in touch next time I come back to see if you want to join me.
    -Doug-
    Oldest coin - 1700's Spanish silver piece of 8 reale
    Oldest U.S. silver - 1833 Capped Bust Half Dime
    Oldest U.S. copper - 1847 Large cent
    Civil War best finds:
    *NC officers belt buckle
    *CSN Confederate Navy Officer button
    *Eagle Sword Belt Plate

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    Re: Jacob Spahn bottle

    O.K., I got the measurements of the bottle from my brother.
    It is 9" tall and 3.5" wide at the base.
    Does that make it a quart or pint?

    Thanks,
    MM
    Oldest coin - 1700's Spanish silver piece of 8 reale
    Oldest U.S. silver - 1833 Capped Bust Half Dime
    Oldest U.S. copper - 1847 Large cent
    Civil War best finds:
    *NC officers belt buckle
    *CSN Confederate Navy Officer button
    *Eagle Sword Belt Plate

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    Re: Jacob Spahn bottle

    Quote Originally Posted by ModernMiner
    O.K., I got the measurements of the bottle from my brother.
    It is 9" tall and 3.5" wide at the base.
    Does that make it a quart or pint?
    Thanks,
    MM
    The larger bottle in my image is 9.38" X 3.38", so it seems you have the less-common large size bottle.
    Jacob Spahn bottle-hutchlargeandsmall.jpg
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