Any ideas how old

[Gregg3131]

Found this at a 1600s house . Looks to be dark green and very heavy with no writing

 

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[sandchip]

My gut's telling me 1900 or thereabouts, more than likely British.

 

[pepperj]

Polished pontil, I would say also 1890sh

 

[unclemac]

lots of French wines from that era pop up.

 

[Harry Pristis]

Listen to Unclemac. It's a French wine bottle, burgundy or champagne form, from the TOC20. I don't know what a "polished pontil" is -- please explain.

 

[whynot]

most likely champaigne based on the neck ring used for the wire to hold the cork in the bottle. Polished pontil refers to the center of the bottle punt. Deeper punts were used on early champaigne bottlles to prevent the higher internal pressure from bursting the bottom of the bottle.

 

[Harry Pristis]

most likely champaigne based on the neck ring used for the wire to hold the cork in the bottle. Polished pontil refers to the center of the bottle punt. Deeper punts were used on early champaigne bottlles to prevent the higher internal pressure from bursting the bottom of the bottle.

There is no such thing as a "polished pontil [scar]" on a French wine bottle. French wine bottles of this age have no pontil scar of any sort.
The kick-up has nothing to do with pressure within the corked bottle. The kick-up simply provided a level rim which allowed the bottle to stand upright. Conveniently, but not purposefully, the kick-up hid the roughness of any pontil scar. When done by hand, the kick-up is not consistent from bottle-to-bottle. Sometimes the kick-up was used to "cheat" -- to reduce the actual volume of wine in a normal-appearing bottle. The kick-up has become traditional on French wine bottles even after it serves no functional purpose -- as with the the bottle in this thread.

 

[unclemac]

I was waiting for you to say that!....imagine trying to school Harry Pristis on bottles

 

[epackage]

It doesn't have a polished pontil, 1900 or after, they are tough to tell...

 

[epackage]

most likely champaigne based on the neck ring used for the wire to hold the cork in the bottle. Polished pontil refers to the center of the bottle punt. Deeper punts were used on early champaigne bottlles to prevent the higher internal pressure from bursting the bottom of the bottle.

WHAT?!?!?! That's simply wrong...

 

[Harry Pristis]

I was waiting for you to say that!....imagine trying to school Harry Pristis on bottles

I'll take that as an hyperbolic compliment. I do have more than a few wine bottles. When buying and selling antique bottles, I had to know these things. Here's an almost "cheat bottle" I'd sell:

It's an atypical bottle to be a common French wine . . . maybe a brandy. No damage on this one.