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    CEDAR COUNTY MISSOURI WAR CACHE LOST

    Church Hollow was a small rural community with a church, a mill,
    and a few houses located in a hollow with Cedar Creek to the west and
    the Sac River to the east. In the early part of the Civil War three friends
    from Church Hollow joined the Confederate Army, but before leaving
    their homes they pooled their money and then they put the money into
    a large kettle. The kettle full of money was so heavy that two men had
    to carry and bury it. A rough stone map of a kettle was carved on a rock
    with several symbols carved on other rocks. The three then left for the
    war.

    On August 10, 1861, at the Battle of Wilson's Creek, just southwest
    of Springfield, Missouri, one of the three was killed and another died
    a few days later. The survivor later returned home, but his mind was
    so affected by the war that his recollections of the past were hazy and
    fragmented. His friends helped him search for the kettle of money, but
    they never could locate it. He said the kettle was "30 minutes east of
    the church."
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    I Gene Carter found the kettle. I'm currently writing the book on the church hollow treasure. I know who all 3 men were....the man that returned was not one of the 3 men...he got info from a dying man. I'm still currently in cedar county missouri.Click image for larger version. 

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    This was a KGC cache "sentinel money" watchers of the BIG treasure....the kettle with a fortune in coins was nothing compared to the rest.
    The starter in Caplinger mills points for MILES...to another map....miles to another map....miles to the buried kettle.
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    Seems if they had that much they prob would have found a way out of having to actually fight in the civil war .... most wealthy people had loop holes to get them out of fighting
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    I would rather see an authentic broken scraper posted than a G-10 Artifake!

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    If you lived in the Union, you could pay $300 and get out. The Fed needed the money. No such luck in the south. You could, though, pay your buddy to "stand in" for you and you were out. Gary
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    hmm...may have found the kettle but where is the money, SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugoutbusman View Post
    I Gene Carter found the kettle. I'm currently writing the book on the church hollow treasure. I know who all 3 men were....the man that returned was not one of the 3 men...he got info from a dying man. I'm still currently in cedar county missouri.Click image for larger version. 

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    This was a KGC cache "sentinel money" watchers of the BIG treasure....the kettle with a fortune in coins was nothing compared to the rest.
    The starter in Caplinger mills points for MILES...to another map....miles to another map....miles to the buried kettle.
    Interesting .. While the history of enamelware can be traced to Germany in the 1760's, it wasn't until the 1870's that a surge of "competitive creativity" began to change American kitchenware. Out of this surge came enameled goods with spattered, speckled, and splashed enamel. The best-known brands, especially the granite and agate ware names, held onto a strong position into the 20th century. Your pot would fall in this range, and most definitely post dates the Civil War.
    “It is best as one grows older to strip oneself of possessions, to shed oneself downward like a tree, to be almost wholly earth before one dies.”

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    I'm familiar with this story in SWMO...The kettle that was found on Kate Austin's farm in the '50's could of been hers Or a community Cache Or a Spanish Cache.

    It wasn't uncommon in that part of the country to bury combined community or family assets.

    Kace
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    It seems a bit odd that Bugoutbusman would pop up out of nowhere as a new member just to make the claim that he found the kettle, but has not returned for any followup discussion.
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    “It is best as one grows older to strip oneself of possessions, to shed oneself downward like a tree, to be almost wholly earth before one dies.”

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    The real kettle

    Quote Originally Posted by Bugoutbusman View Post
    I Gene Carter found the kettle. I'm currently writing the book on the church hollow treasure. I know who all 3 men were....the man that returned was not one of the 3 men...he got info from a dying man. I'm still currently in cedar county missouri.Click image for larger version. 

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    This was a KGC cache "sentinel money" watchers of the BIG treasure....the kettle with a fortune in coins was nothing compared to the rest.
    The starter in Caplinger mills points for MILES...to another map....miles to another map....miles to the buried kettle.
    This kettle is REALLY the cache. It dates BEFORE the civil war. It took me 3 years working day and nite...that's what treasure fever does to you. Indeed I did find it. All the photos will be in my book that I'm still writing.
    I have been reading stuff on this website for a few years. I finally signed up to post my findings. I'd hate to see anyone waste their time searching for what I have already found. I've been trying to locate the family of C.W. Springer, Doris, Larry, or Brian. If you don't know who they are try googling " the disappointment, or the force of credulity". There is an old playwrite by the same name, but this video was produced by Brian Springer. They dug on the Austin farm for years. Nobody EVER left the Austin farm, it was MILES AWAY.

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    So if you did find it post photos of the coins/treasure? If you found it your rich, trying to withhold photos to force people to buy your book is just greedy and sketchy.
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    The 3 men were KGC. One of the men was James Cawthorn, 1st sheriff of cedar county. 2nd was A.J. Austin. The 3rd man I won't reveal yet...as it was buried on his property and I'm still collecting artifacts. This is where AFTER THE WAR Albert Pike and 31 outlaws...some of them were identified as...William Quantrill, Bill McGuire, Harrison Trow, Wash Haller, Dick Burns, Ben Morrow, Dick Kenney, Frank James, George Maddox, Sam Bass, Bloody Bill Anderson, and more. They came here to recover the cache. They captured 7 men on site stripped them down to shirts and drawers and shot them all in the back of the head. I believe they were being forced to show where the cache was but nobody gave it up. The men then murdered Obadiah Smith the preacher, burned down the town of Nevada, and went on to the massacre in Lawrence kansas, it all started HERE at my cache site, all occurred in a 3 day period.

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    This kettle is older than the civil war, it's not a cheap American knockoff, American enamelware was the same inside and out. This one is enamelware on the outside but looks like porcelain or ceramic on the inside. Indeed this is the real kettle

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    As the legend says one "crazed man" returned...his name was John Hartley, he was NOT one of the 3 men. "Crazed" meaning treasure fever. John Hartley opened the first bank in Stockton. He got the info from James Cawthorn....It took James 8 days to die from his wounds. He was alert even on his final day he signed his daily muster card the morning he died.

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    I find it funny that anyone has doubts. When my book comes out you will see alot of amazing photos. This was a REAL TREASURE CACHE. and yes I did find it. People have their doubts because nobody found it in 157 years. Trust me when I say the man that returned had errors in it's translation. Anyone searching believed him and continued his search. If you want different results...look at it differently. The crazed man was NOT one of the 3 men. One of the biggest clues was churchchurchchurch in the middle. In my book you will learn all the details. I didn't just find it...I researched every person and event involved. I don't really care if anyone believes me...I'm rich...the book is my legacy after death.

 

 
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