Vegas area CRHers

[Michael Vegas Pennies]

Cheers all,

For the most part, CRHing seems to be a somewhat solitary thing, or something that is shared only with significant others (girlfriends? or family?). As a 'small time' CRHer it's hard to have much of an influence on the circulation of halves, especially since we're all either picking up from each other dump banks or dumping at each others pick-up banks.

So given that, I was curious if any of you wanted to be more organized about it? Or maybe there's already a semi coordinated system in place amongst any of the forum readers in the area?

Are there any such groups in other areas outside vegas that would willing to share their experiences?

cheers, and HH.



PS Many good points below, and perhaps the above could be clearer, and I'm always open to the fallibility of these thoughts... The intent of being organized would not be to share capital or to share finds or even any personal information, it would simply be to to coordinate a critical mass of people to agree to pick up from one stream, say CWI and dump in another stream, say for example brinks.

I have no clue if this would impact average finds, but assuming a LIFO system, you could probably get pretty deep into a stockpile of CWI halves especially if you have huge amounts of halves leaving the system than entering. But I don't know what critical mass of people would be required to or more importantly the critical mass of coin flow. And of course there are no guarantees the finds would be better the deeper you get into a stockpile. But most CRHers remember how abundant finds were years ago...

 

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[GMan00001]

I have been looking to find someone for saturday combined CRH and MD runs or certain evenings might work as well especially if the other person has time to do pickups during the day (as I don't have much), but I have yet to meet said person locally....

My system thus has remained solitary....buy at bank A, search, dump at bank B, repeat..


The only person I have ever hunted with (yet) was Immy and that was in Vegas.... maybe someday

 

[Michael Vegas Pennies]

Gman, I could definitely have fun searching those machines downtown for coins. The few times I've done that, I must have been using a machine you and Immy just cleaned out because to date, i've only found only one 2003 NIFC.


What I'm really trying to get at is not so much 'group searching', but a more organized catch and release system for the box searchers, to kind of eat in and get deep in to the half dollar stock piles of whatever coin services are in the area, whether it be a brinks location of a local bank 'vault' or whatever....

While some people on the forum can easily search through 40k a month buying in one region and dumping in another, most of us dont... so I figured collectively a group of us could easily pull that. We could still work on our own at our own paces, but we'd be pulling from one stockpile and dumping in another (assuming there are multiple vaults in the area).... but maybe this is short sighted on my part, which is a possibility.

 

[Immy]

In a city filled with coins (mostly in the past, less so nowadays) it seemed for years I was the only one doing this. Then I found this forum and discovered a few more local searchers; Jerry (vegasmtl) who has since relocated to Okinawa, and now Michael who did the reverse and moved here.

I'm aware of a few half dollar casino searchers, one in particular I see every now and then (an older guy) cashing out $20 at a time and checking edges. There must be some who do a high volume cuz I find a lot of halves sharpie-marked with numbers. Plus when I first started asking for halves at my BofA I was always told an older guy buys everything they have once a week.

Ditto, GMan was the only one I've ever done this with (till Binion's got annoyed with our double-teaming) but I think the benefits of getting together with other CRHers would be better suited in a weekly/monthly gathering, like a club. GMan and I swapped a lot of stories and info this way. Perhaps searchers could agree on a communal dump bank and other such strategies. Could have its benefits.

 

[DrDetector]

With all due respect, and truly I mean that, but this forum most likely doesn't even represent 1% of the 'regular' coin roll hunters in this country. I just don't see how it would make an impact if not 1% of a group collectively decided to do something. And as JD says, silver is going to be deposited at others' dump banks so even buying up 'dumps' will yield silver or NIFC or whatever. Sorry but a collective strategy just seems like a waste of time.

 

[BBcardsRI]

Looking at it THAT way, you are correct good Doctor sir.

However, he mentioned trying to get deeper into "vault" stashes and stuff. I have no idea exactly how different systems works, Brinks, CWI, etc. but if there is one monster pile than more pople tackling it at once would get deeper into it. I'm not so convinced that is how things go though... but hey... who knows.

Plus... being someone who often CRH with a friend, I can say that having someone else along makes things less boring, so that is a plus as well. Also, more people = more funds to play with, etc.

So it isn't all that shabby of an idea if you use it correctly.

Good luck finding other locals! And don't forget about your friends! Get them into the hobby!

~Dave

 

[coinmojo]

This is not the first attempt at something like that.

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,153397.0.html

And sometimes your efforts are not taken very welcome.

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,151243.0.html

Mojo

 

[Silver_Fox]

I'm more of a lone wolf. Call me carefull. I don't share personell information with anyone over the net. Just my way of doing things.

 

[TxTim]

I'm more of a lone wolf. Call me carefull. I don't share personell information with anyone over the net. Just my way of doing things.

Excellent policy.
Nothing to be gained on either end except potential physical and/or ID theft.

 

[GMan00001]

I'm more of a lone wolf. Call me carefull. I don't share personell information with anyone over the net. Just my way of doing things.

Excellent policy.
Nothing to be gained on either end except potential physical and/or ID theft.

That's big part of reason why I haven't found a search partner, there's a trust factor that needs to be there first which makes it difficult.... :P

 

[Michael Vegas Pennies]

With all due respect, and truly I mean that, but this forum most likely doesn't even represent 1% of the 'regular' coin roll hunters in this country. I just don't see how it would make an impact if not 1% of a group collectively decided to do something. And as JD says, silver is going to be deposited at others' dump banks so even buying up 'dumps' will yield silver or NIFC or whatever. Sorry but a collective strategy just seems like a waste of time.

There is definitely merit to your view, and evidence to support it. I mean, I know of a guy who picks up and dumps 4 boxes on a daily ritual at the same same exact bank. His coins get shipped out, sorted, wrapped and sent back and he pulls out a 0-2 keepers per box, sandwiched between coins hes already looked at (maybe a month ago, or a year ago) so of course silver is always entering the stream. (others on the board probably know of him or perhaps even know him, as the serious CRHing community really isn't so big.)

If you're content to find 0 - 2 keepers per box, that kind of system is fine, but possibly shortsighted. There are others on the forum who are single handedly affecting the flow of halves just by the shear volume that they are searching and redistributing. This might be conjecture, but think about it this way: the more dumps you redirect away from your pickups, the more concentrated the keepers in your pickups should be. if that makes sense.

but you do have a point, there has to be a critical mass or a critical flow to see results...