Are Cud Coins Collectable?

l.cutler

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These aren't cuds, cuds are from a break on the edge of the die, so they are only on the edge of the coin. These could be small die chips.
 

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YUP, CUDS are highly prized & value can be into the thousands times face.
cudsoncoins.com has a nice database with photos.

look at my post today in CRH forum for a nice '84 Zincoln with a big 'un that's not listed in the website--- so rarity will hopefully make it worth more :dontknow:

the new issue "ELLIS ISLAND" qtr is infected with an "internal die break" on the elbow----

study & ye shall be huntin' lucratively in no time 8-)
 

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A cud is when the outer edge of the die breaks away and leaves a void.
 

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my bad. what are coins with these imperfections called? CRUDS maybe. Ha Ha
 

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A die chip occurs when any portion of a die is chipped off through use. This could be minor, and barely visible, to multiple chips that are more than obvious to the unaided eye.

A die crack is when any portion of a die is cracked. This can be anywhere from barely visible to the entire diameter of the coin. Multiple die cracks are also possible.

A cud is a specific type of die break where part of the die, which includes a portion of the edge, has broken off, leaving a void. A cud could start as a chip or as a crack.

The portion of the die that breaks off ends up as a tiny piece of refuse on the workroom floor until someone sweeps. It could also end up in a hopper with minted coins. Either way, the broken bit of the die ends up as refuse.

I would suggest that you learn everything you can on the subject of manufacturing coins. By knowing every aspect of this process, it will become easier to recognize errors. It will also be easier to recognize post mint damage.

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I defiantly have a better idea as to I d and what to look for. I am not a collector per say but enjoy the hobby. Thanks everyone for all the insight.
 

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I defiantly have a better idea as to I d and what to look for. I am not a collector per say but enjoy the hobby. Thanks everyone for all the insight.

error-ref.com details the process and the multitude of errors that are possible.

here is what 33 years of peeps who are not looking at coins can provide towards that yacht you been wantin'

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found this week in a Loomis roll
 

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To add to the knowledge, an area in the inner part of the die that's bigger than a chip is called an interior die break.
 

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To add to the knowledge, an area in the inner part of the die that's bigger than a chip is called an interior die break.

a bigYUP on Enamels bit O' advice :icon_thumleft::icon_thumright:

got 2 of 'em on the "Ellis Island" so far, plus a "snow on the roof" Homestead & 3 AZ. "extra cactus" (2 varieties on that) below saguaru covering initials :hello2:
 

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A die chip occurs when any portion of a die is chipped off through use. This could be minor, and barely visible, to multiple chips that are more than obvious to the unaided eye.

A die crack is when any portion of a die is cracked. This can be anywhere from barely visible to the entire diameter of the coin. Multiple die cracks are also possible.

A cud is a specific type of die break where part of the die, which includes a portion of the edge, has broken off, leaving a void. A cud could start as a chip or as a crack.

The portion of the die that breaks off ends up as a tiny piece of refuse on the workroom floor until someone sweeps. It could also end up in a hopper with minted coins. Either way, the broken bit of the die ends up as refuse.

I would suggest that you learn everything you can on the subject of manufacturing coins. By knowing every aspect of this process, it will become easier to recognize errors. It will also be easier to recognize post mint damage.

Last coffee of the day almost gone. There is always tomorrow.

Tomorrow is here. Thanks the info. Has there ever been a coin found with a die chip or break embedded in it from the next die strike if it happens to land on the die somehow instead on the floor?
 

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