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Jan 11, 2021, 09:50 PM
#1
 United States
Opine on a GOLD 1861S Half Eagle??
Any amateur coin graders interested in debating the condition of something like this?
I don’t frequent this part of T-Net to know much.
Obviously everyone wants to see gold.
Just trying to generate some interest from some that may have enough knowledge or experience to maybe take a fairly accurate WAG based on photos.
Will upload photos tomorrow evening when I am able to see it if there is interest.
Thanks
Last edited by Tesorodeoro; Jan 12, 2021 at 12:52 AM.
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Jan 13, 2021, 02:28 PM
#2
Sure, send us photos, I'm sure many of us would chime in.....
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Jan 13, 2021, 04:33 PM
#3
 Originally Posted by 1235CE
Sure, send us photos, I'm sure many of us would chime in.....
Yep... just waiting for pictures.
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Jan 13, 2021, 05:04 PM
#4
 Roger. USAF Vietnam war Combat Vet
1/11 /21...." I will upload pix. tomorrow" We can't help you w/o helping us
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Jan 13, 2021, 06:16 PM
#5
Anxious to see your gold piece...!
1861-S Half-Eagle
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Stick With It - It's not *IF* you'll find the good stuff , but WHEN!
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Jan 13, 2021, 09:13 PM
#6
Been holding back, but I figures that I’d chime in... no visible wear, scratches, or dings... I don’t see any evidence of cleaning or environmental damage, so I’ll say MS64, but could be MS63 or MS65. High resolution photos of the obverse and reverse could make me change my opinion though.
Kindest regards,
Kantuck
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Jan 13, 2021, 11:20 PM
#7
 United States
Sorry guys..,not my coin and high resolution photos ARE my responsibility.
Wasn’t able to follow through yet of taking pictures because of factors out of my control.
Rest assured, there will be some decent pics that will follow.
I was hoping for some interest, but it was silent up until I checked in today... ; )
Glad to see a few people interested. This one is in-between valuable and highly valuable I think. I’m no expert.
Great story behind it, that will be years down the road.
Last edited by Tesorodeoro; Jan 13, 2021 at 11:33 PM.
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Jan 13, 2021, 11:33 PM
#8
I’d be happy to take a look. Pics will be necessary of course.
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Jan 14, 2021, 06:36 PM
#9
You can go to the pcgs website and actually look at each grade, that might help in the meantime.
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Jan 14, 2021, 08:50 PM
#10
 United States

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These were just quick cell phone pics. I can probably get better detail if there is an area of interest.
I understand these are scarce and that the price quickly drops depending on condition.
Also be interested in opinions on actual estimated value at today’s market.
This one may have traveled a decent amount on horseback nestled together with other gold coins in a money belt or a bag of coins.
Definitely wasn’t cleaned. It came out of the ground after having rested for a decent length of time. It was dug very carefully, knowing what it was ahead of time.
Last edited by Tesorodeoro; Jan 14, 2021 at 09:31 PM.
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Jan 15, 2021, 12:39 AM
#11
 An unidentified coin is a piece of metal. An identified coin is a piece of history.
Why not just get it professionally graded and remove all doubt?
Don......
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Jan 15, 2021, 02:30 AM
#12
I would say Extremely Fine. Most likely an EF-40 or a 45.
The ANA Grading Standards Book lists these descriptions for an EF-45 coin:
Obverse: There is light wear on coronet, hair above ear, eye, forelocks, and top of head.
Reverse: Light wear shows on edges and tips of wings, neck, below eye, and on claws.
All in all a really beautiful coin!
Last edited by Fossils; Jan 15, 2021 at 02:37 AM.
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Jan 15, 2021, 04:41 AM
#13
 United States
Credit to Douglas Winter @ rare gold coins.com

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Jan 15, 2021, 08:20 AM
#14
The mouth just doesn't seem right.
My first thought was that it was a counterfeit, but I have no experience with coins. I've been wrong b4 and probably will be again.
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Jan 15, 2021, 08:33 AM
#15
 Originally Posted by Tesorodeoro
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Definitely wasn’t cleaned. It came out of the ground after having rested for a decent length of time. It was dug very carefully, knowing what it was ahead of time.
I really have to give you credit. But my mind begs to know "How did you actually know it was there ahead of time"?
Just that I have been digging for 50 yrs plus and have yet to know what lays below-have a thought/wish/idea/hope but never a knowing ahead of time.
So somebody told you then?
Beautiful looking gold-send it in and get a grade on it then you'll know for sure.
Do have some books on grading in storage-but then there's the quality of pics/environmental damage/cleaned aspect of the grading. They really seem to like those labels on the slabs.
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