tnsharpshooter
Hero Member
- Jul 10, 2012
- 922
- 976
- Detector(s) used
- Xp Deus 2, Xp Deus 1, Minelab Etrac, Minelab Manticore
- Primary Interest:
- All Treasure Hunting
So what can a person hear audio wise when using Deus in the field?
First let's talk about colocated nonferrous.
These can be troublesome.
Say a pull tab and a dime or penny near one another.
Can the Deus tell the op the dime is there?
It depends on proximity and orientation of both targets.
The coil size will dictate too how close they can be to each other and allow op to here the dime.
If distance here get too close Deus will like most other detectors provide an average tid.
On top of the ground testing will show this.
Remember though if the say older coin is deeper than the tab, this can REALLY aggravate the Deus capability to detect dime only with appropriate assigned tone.
One thing an op can do is to run high notch, this CAN depending force the Deus to tone only on the dime with the notch setting telling user likely a higher conductor is under their coil.
You see the Deus will at times blend tone while over 2 different conductive nonferrous targets.
A trained ear can hear.,but this can be difficult some times even for a seasoned user of Deus.
Again on top of the ground testing will reveal this with Deus, new users should test and be aware of.
Now I am not recommending this using high notch for a routine hunt option settings wise, but it CAN be useful in some
instances.
Users of Deus should keep in mind, the way the Deus works targets normally rejected by using notch as targets deepen depending on ground mineral levels these once thought to be rejected targets will start to come through tonally,,as long as the 90s region ID wise is not rejected.
Let's talk about challenged target.
Deus users should be able to recognize a challenged target.
What are some things to listen for/watch for?
This is where iron volume when on or using full tones with low disc can help.
Users will hear the iron tone coming rolling in and be mixed in with nonferrous tone.
Users may notice only a 2 way signal vs a 4 way signal.
Users may notice a required slowing of coil sweep to hear target.
Users may notice a higher Reactivty setting to hear target.
Users may notice a higher freq setting required to hear target.
All of the above really do come into play when you are hunting previous hard hunted sites hunted by yourself or others.
Let's talk about Deus and iron.
Deus is killer in iron.
A better killer than even a new user of Deus will be thinking generally only after a few hunts.
This is not to say a new user won't make some nice finds or finds in previous hard hunted sites.
I am just saying here there is another gear to Deus, when hunting in iron.
These nonferrous targets will be the super challenged and the clues Deus gives not so obvious to new user of detector.
So what are some things to do and listen for.
New users hunting in iron pits best advice starting out, dial GB to 86 and leave it there. Now with more experience with detector a lower go setting can be used depending on your ground.
Folks need to remember a site with iron using Deus with all coils CANNOT generally find all detectable nonferrous in a site with ONE set of settings, especially reactivity setting.
Now saying this, rehunting using different settings may or may not yield higher numbers of nonferrous finds.
But should yield some.
Coil sweep speed needs to be controlled, not too fast, hard to go too slow. Deus can hunt using Minelab crawl for those with fbs/fbs2 detector experience.
Hunting in sites loaded with iron, IMO best advice listen for the melody of the music (tones) the Deus provides.
What sounds out of place.
It would be fair to say, most sites with lots of iron have more ferrous objects/material in them than nonferrous objects.
So a persons will hear the music produced by the ferrous.
A Deus user is listing for an interruption in the melody.
These interruptions will generally be repeatable with more coil sweeps IF a user can find a spot yielding one of the interruptions.
Now here I am not talking about what I call more the textbook sounding target giving more or less the assigned tone when sweeping.
A user may hear a tiny small interruption with a subtle ramp of and holding for extremely short time and a let down.
A user may hear an interruption where the tone is just a tiny bit above iron tone(no grunt) and has a small plateau to it.
I should point out here using pinpoint function can give some misleading data to users especially with the LF coils and even the round HF coil.
The smaller HF elliptical coil though, IMO using pinpoint with it seems based on my approx 200 hours thus far does seem to yield better useable data when hunting in iron to make a dig/no dog decision.
Users hunting in areas with loads of iron, be conscious of your coil height above ground when sweeping.
If grass or whatever precludes getting coil close to ground, Deus users should consider running lower Reactivty setting and SLOW coil sweep.
Silencer setting- this can allow Deus to signal on a nonferrous target or even to stretch out a tone on a target, even a very challenged target.
I always run -1 silencer.
I recommend folks to run a -1 or 0 setting as the least to hunt sites with loads of iron.
I should mention here, the HF coils seems to be a tad more sparky that the LF coils. So running a level higher than what a person generally would using LF coil not a bad idea,,,especially folks new to the Deus HF coils.
First let's talk about colocated nonferrous.
These can be troublesome.
Say a pull tab and a dime or penny near one another.
Can the Deus tell the op the dime is there?
It depends on proximity and orientation of both targets.
The coil size will dictate too how close they can be to each other and allow op to here the dime.
If distance here get too close Deus will like most other detectors provide an average tid.
On top of the ground testing will show this.
Remember though if the say older coin is deeper than the tab, this can REALLY aggravate the Deus capability to detect dime only with appropriate assigned tone.
One thing an op can do is to run high notch, this CAN depending force the Deus to tone only on the dime with the notch setting telling user likely a higher conductor is under their coil.
You see the Deus will at times blend tone while over 2 different conductive nonferrous targets.
A trained ear can hear.,but this can be difficult some times even for a seasoned user of Deus.
Again on top of the ground testing will reveal this with Deus, new users should test and be aware of.
Now I am not recommending this using high notch for a routine hunt option settings wise, but it CAN be useful in some
instances.
Users of Deus should keep in mind, the way the Deus works targets normally rejected by using notch as targets deepen depending on ground mineral levels these once thought to be rejected targets will start to come through tonally,,as long as the 90s region ID wise is not rejected.
Let's talk about challenged target.
Deus users should be able to recognize a challenged target.
What are some things to listen for/watch for?
This is where iron volume when on or using full tones with low disc can help.
Users will hear the iron tone coming rolling in and be mixed in with nonferrous tone.
Users may notice only a 2 way signal vs a 4 way signal.
Users may notice a required slowing of coil sweep to hear target.
Users may notice a higher Reactivty setting to hear target.
Users may notice a higher freq setting required to hear target.
All of the above really do come into play when you are hunting previous hard hunted sites hunted by yourself or others.
Let's talk about Deus and iron.
Deus is killer in iron.
A better killer than even a new user of Deus will be thinking generally only after a few hunts.
This is not to say a new user won't make some nice finds or finds in previous hard hunted sites.
I am just saying here there is another gear to Deus, when hunting in iron.
These nonferrous targets will be the super challenged and the clues Deus gives not so obvious to new user of detector.
So what are some things to do and listen for.
New users hunting in iron pits best advice starting out, dial GB to 86 and leave it there. Now with more experience with detector a lower go setting can be used depending on your ground.
Folks need to remember a site with iron using Deus with all coils CANNOT generally find all detectable nonferrous in a site with ONE set of settings, especially reactivity setting.
Now saying this, rehunting using different settings may or may not yield higher numbers of nonferrous finds.
But should yield some.
Coil sweep speed needs to be controlled, not too fast, hard to go too slow. Deus can hunt using Minelab crawl for those with fbs/fbs2 detector experience.
Hunting in sites loaded with iron, IMO best advice listen for the melody of the music (tones) the Deus provides.
What sounds out of place.
It would be fair to say, most sites with lots of iron have more ferrous objects/material in them than nonferrous objects.
So a persons will hear the music produced by the ferrous.
A Deus user is listing for an interruption in the melody.
These interruptions will generally be repeatable with more coil sweeps IF a user can find a spot yielding one of the interruptions.
Now here I am not talking about what I call more the textbook sounding target giving more or less the assigned tone when sweeping.
A user may hear a tiny small interruption with a subtle ramp of and holding for extremely short time and a let down.
A user may hear an interruption where the tone is just a tiny bit above iron tone(no grunt) and has a small plateau to it.
I should point out here using pinpoint function can give some misleading data to users especially with the LF coils and even the round HF coil.
The smaller HF elliptical coil though, IMO using pinpoint with it seems based on my approx 200 hours thus far does seem to yield better useable data when hunting in iron to make a dig/no dog decision.
Users hunting in areas with loads of iron, be conscious of your coil height above ground when sweeping.
If grass or whatever precludes getting coil close to ground, Deus users should consider running lower Reactivty setting and SLOW coil sweep.
Silencer setting- this can allow Deus to signal on a nonferrous target or even to stretch out a tone on a target, even a very challenged target.
I always run -1 silencer.
I recommend folks to run a -1 or 0 setting as the least to hunt sites with loads of iron.
I should mention here, the HF coils seems to be a tad more sparky that the LF coils. So running a level higher than what a person generally would using LF coil not a bad idea,,,especially folks new to the Deus HF coils.
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