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  1. #1
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    5 Year Anti-Moratorium Petitions

    download and get your buds to sign


    http://plp1.org/fightforyourrights.html
    some are wise, some are otherwise

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    Re: 5 Year Anti-Moratorium Petitions

    some are wise, some are otherwise

  3. #3
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    Gold Dredger 2nd Generation

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    Re: 5 Year Anti-Moratorium Petitions

    Petitions are right up there in the same classification with form letter for effectiveness. If you feel you must, have at it.

    What it is going to take is Millions$$$ and a blood sucking laywer that charges such to win this, something we don't have.

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    Re: 5 Year Anti-Moratorium Petitions

    1 handwritten sentence written with a crayon carries as much weight on the scales of justice as a petition with 1,000 signatures.
    CIVAL DISOBEDIENCE IS THE ONLY ANSWER-RANT RAVE-HOOT AND A HOLLER-PICKET-RALLY-AND NUTTN' ELSE WORKS-John

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    Re: 5 Year Anti-Moratorium Petitions

    LMAO GUYS

    GH, HJ i agree, but something has to be done, I'm desperate
    HJ, i like this rally call. lets set a date for the Capital and protest, if we can get people to show up like the meeting we had in Sac.
    get the left wingnuts media attention
    make up signs like ( the professors at U.C, Berkeley want you to drink mercury and lead )

    and i have been told not to put a dredge in the water to protest SB670, because some have done so already and are being cited for other things rather then a violation of SB670,
    SB670 is unconstitutional and would be tossed if we had the right judge
    but i like this rally lets get it up and running
    some are wise, some are otherwise

  6. #6
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    Re: 5 Year Anti-Moratorium Petitions

    If your going to do it best do it soon, I'm heading North in 16 DAYS!!!

    Last year I tried to rally something of a demonstratation/protest in Sacramento, no-one wanted to partake and the interest was just not there.
    I tried and was looking at July 4th 2010 great date for freedom 1776 might be what it take this time around.

    I think that most miners are city dwelling sheeple and need to grow some balls. We need a BIG impacted not just fly on the wall complaints.

    16 Days and I rid myself of this crap hole called California and get to Dredge Free again, a least for the summer months.

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    Re: 5 Year Anti-Moratorium Petitions

    GH
    I did the samething not long ago here on Tnet and got no response
    maybe get ICMJ a notice, along with PLP
    would my 6 " help in Alaska
    Good luck
    some are wise, some are otherwise

  8. #8
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    Gold Dredger 2nd Generation

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    Re: 5 Year Anti-Moratorium Petitions

    PLP, Lame.

    2cmorau, Besta Luck on all that your going to need it.

    Really like the thought of coming back in the fall and have everthing back the way it was but then the reality sets in.
    Reality has set in along time ago for me as what other reason would I be heading to AK and putting my family's heritage aside.
    Have to get a grip on it or spend all your time fighting and no time mining, I am a miner not a frickin' lobbyist. Way too much time spent already for me.

    Sorry, this is just where I am with it. Best of Luck to ya as I said and hopefully it will not push you into the unsane.

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    Re: 5 Year Anti-Moratorium Petitions

    plop=bs-SEND YOUR CASH FOR US TO SQUANDER WITH STUPIDITY AND MORE DAMAGE THAN GOOD DONE BY A 10,000,000,000 FACTOR AS FIGHT DELIBERATELY EXTENDED TO CASH IN ON YOUR POCKETBOOK TO A STYLE TO WHICH THEY WANT TO BECOME ACCUSTOMED TOO. I'D WIPE MY ARSE WITH A $100 RATHER THAN GIVE'M A LOUSY DIME-John

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    Re: 5 Year Anti-Moratorium Petitions

    I came across this, this morning, i was a bit surprised
    here's the link if you would like to read the rest
    http://www.sierracounty.ws/county_do...e%20letter.pdf
    SIERRA COUNTY
    Board of Supervisors
    P.O. Drawer D
    Downieville, California 95936
    Telephone (530) 289-3295
    Fax (530) 289-2830
    3 May 2011
    Mr. Mark Stopher
    Environmental Program Manager
    California Department ofFish and Game
    601 Locust Sheet
    Redding, CA 96001
    Subject: Draft Subsequent Environmental Impact Report
    Dear Mr. Stopher:
    The Sierra County Board of Supervisors has completed its review of the proposed "Draft
    Subsequent Environmental Impact Report (SEIR) for the Suction Dredge Permitting
    Program" in California. This review included two (2) publicly noticed Board of Supervisor
    meetings and one (1) publicly noticed town hall meeting within the community of
    Downieville.
    First and foremost, the Board of Supervisors expresses its deepest concerns over the public
    outreach program and effort undertaken by the Department of Fish and Game to
    understand the impacts of the December 2006 court order; the impacts of implementing the
    ban on suction dredging brought about in SB 670 effective August 6,2009; and, the
    impacts that will be caused by implementation of the proposed suction dredge rules that
    serve to amend the 1994 regulations and impose further restrictions on suction dredging
    operations. The public meetings conducted by the Department of Fish and Game were held
    in urban regions which are far-removed from the counties and communities that will
    receive the burden and impacts of the proposed regulations. Rather than Fresno or
    Sacramento, conducting a public meeting in Downieville or Quiucy, located in the heart of
    the motherlode aud possessing a deep and rich cultural history based in the gold mining
    industry, would have produced a more accurate and realistic understanding of the impacts
    that the proposed regulations will have on the population and economy of the region.
    The Board of Supervisors offers the following comments with respect to the draft
    subsequent environmental impact report:
    1. We find the dredging seasons proposed for most Sierra County waterways as
    draconian and lacking scientific rationale. The approach proposed in the
    regulations fails to provide specific scientific evidence that resulted in the seasonal
    classification of streams in Sierra County, and this broad-brushed aproach appears
    some are wise, some are otherwise

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    Re: 5 Year Anti-Moratorium Petitions



    Very exciting to read

  12. #12
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    Re: 5 Year Anti-Moratorium Petitions

    That sounds good, I hope that helps get the ball rolling for all dredgers in Cal.

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    Re: 5 Year Anti-Moratorium Petitions

    While I commend Mr. Davis on a missive well written, I'm afraid it will fall upon deaf ears. People like Mr. Stopher quite frankly don't give a tinkers damn about the little people eak'n out a living in the woods. if you don't sip champagne and nibble on melba toast points smeared with bree you don't belong on the same planet with them what do.

    What is needed is some heavy monied individual who believes as we do to bankroll a major lawsuit to slap some dicks in the dirt.

    Gramps
    ====================Jesus non Socialās======================

    **********A Nation of Sheep Breeds a Government of Wolves!**********

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    Re: 5 Year Anti-Moratorium Petitions

    Quote Originally Posted by Gramps43
    While I commend Mr. Davis on a missive well written, I'm afraid it will fall upon deaf ears. People like Mr. Stopher quite frankly don't give a tinkers damn about the little people eak'n out a living in the woods. if you don't sip champagne and nibble on melba toast points smeared with bree you don't belong on the same planet with them what do.

    What is needed is some heavy monied individual who believes as we do to bankroll a major lawsuit to slap some dicks in the dirt.

    Gramps
    Yup, exacty. Finding that wealthy individual to do so will be harder than finding a pound nugget.

    Anyhow, in all reality that is what it is going to take a huge lawsuit with unlimited funding to win this stinking battle of this frickin war. (looks to the right looks to the left)

  15. #15
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    Re: 5 Year Anti-Moratorium Petitions

    all the more reason to get a rally going at the Capital
    or be like them nut buckets leftwing environazis and do like they do when they don't have something go there way, who
    spike trees, chain themselves together, burn cars, buildings Etc
    all the money in the world can't get past the ninth circus court
    some are wise, some are otherwise

  16. #16
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    Re: 5 Year Anti-Moratorium Petitions

    Count me in for any rally.

    Hefty

 

 

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