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    Highbanker Attachement for the Keene Sluice Box

    Hi All,
    I would appreciate your comments about the Keene Highbanker attachment for a Keene Sluicebox. I have an A54 or 52, can not recall exactly which at the moment, and I am considering the purchase of their highbanker modification. I've a small engine & pump from a Keene 2" dredge that I intend to use should I make this purchase, will that be too small a pump/motor?

    Also, comments please about Stihl versus Husquvarna (sp??) chain saws. This will be for cutting camp firewood during the winter while I'm running the highbanker so possibly not much work with the saw during the rest of the year BUT I want an up to date good working sturdy unit so maybe a medium duty saw of about 37 through 48 cc's engine size.

    Thanks all for your comments............63bkpkr
    Out searching w/GMT & friend under my arm

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    Re: Highbanker Attachement for the Keene Sluice Box

    63bkpkr I'm not familiar with the sluices or HB unit you are thinking of , but either saw brand, Sthil or Husqvarna should serve you well. I use both brands, often for hours a day, and gladly pack either one.
    I really like the compression release on these new saws. It makes for some easy starting on cold winter days.

    I'm sure you know already, but a sharp chain with properly filed rakers is a thing of beauty.

    Take care 63bkpkr, I enjoy your posts,
    Mike
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    Re: Highbanker Attachement for the Keene Sluice Box

    B63--what is size of orafices on the pump--does it have the cast in hose bib?? Reasoning is age of pump important as newer more psi/gpm and conversion is ok BUT like all highbankers them grizzly bars load up real ez and adios all your gold right back out AND all gold bigger than bar spacing adios too.What engine please also?? With smaller pumps run the hose at a ez gradient and go ABOVE the hibkr and then loop gradually down to take advantage of gravity flow suction also for mo' flow. A 90 degree angle costs ya over 18% of psi/flow and 45 degree about 7-8% so it all adds up to make/break your op as I know your part billygoat and hike to earths end ---tons a au 2 u 2-John

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    Re: Highbanker Attachement for the Keene Sluice Box

    Herb, be sure to check out the California Sluice A52 conversion for under a $100. It would be a lot lighter if you had to pack in. http://www.casluicebox.com/HIGH-BANKER-PARTS.html
    Glen

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    Re: Highbanker Attachement for the Keene Sluice Box

    Thank you Fellas,
    All of your inputs are SO Worthwhile!! IF I do not have a permanent job by mid Feb then it is likely I will carry two tons of stuff into "someplace" for a while and do some prospecting. Yes, it is winter and so far, not much snow in the Sierras though I am not aware yet of what the current storm is doing. IF the conditions are still OK, no full time job and the buzzards are not trying to pick me off then I will take a shot at it.

    I've done snow camping for several years, still have the equipment and am capable of keeping myself alive during cold to quite cold conditions down to zero degrees F. This type of adventure requires one to pay lots of attention to staying warm and safe, hence my question about chain saws as I will need to have a good fire going all the time I am awake. I walked into Costco last night and they had a fresh pile of Husqy Rancher e-series chain saws for $339. I looked up reviews for the saw and found that that particular saw has problems so I'm back to a Stihl.

    delnorter, I performed my final Stihl research today at a well stocked store in Watsonville and have shrunk the list to two saws, MS 261 Pro Series & an MS211 C-BE Occasional Use series. I checked out the 271 Wood Boss as it and the 261 both have 50.2 cc engines. I compared pulling the starter cord on both and hands down IF I had the coin for the 261 that is what I would purchase, w/18" bar $569 plus CA taxes. The 261 has a compression release valve (as you talked about) and its use reduces the pulling effort by 66% to 75% while the 271 has no starting aid and the pull is severe. Even the 211 a 35 cc engine takes a good effort to pull but nothing like the 271 BUT the 211 C-BE has starting assist though not as good as the 261 it still makes it a lot easier to start the machine. IF all of the IF's happen then I will have a saw, some highbanker attachment for my A52 and an engine and pump for running the highbanker.

    HJ - I will check on the pump in a week or so and get back to you. My current short term job keeps me very busy during the week but it is supposed to end in about a week and I will be able to pull it out of storage and see what it is. But, I purchased this 2" portable Keene dredge unit in 1992. It has a fine little Japanese engine on it and a very nice pump, just what pump I do not know at this moment. NO, I am not going dredging, just using the existing dredge engine & pump (I hope) to supply the water to the highbanker.

    Now I do not have a firm number for the weight of all this stuff and lets not forget my usual "backpacking pack" weight of ~85 pounds filled with food for two weeks but I'm guessing it will be a good 200 pounds. Will I have fun? Yes when I get all of it in and then out. Will it be an adventure? Why of Course! All trips are adventures, why even the planning is an adventure! Will I find anything? I believe I will. How much , well that is a mystery we will only know the answer to once I've done this thing. And Nitro, I will be sure to check out that A52 HB mod link you sent as at under $100 it would literally be so worth it.


    Now I would just as soon have a full time job as that is what I NEED to have in order to payoff $300,000.00 in student loans so please pray for one of the four companies I'm in touch with to hire me. And I will get back to prospecting a bit later.

    Thanks a bunch.............63bkpkr
    Out searching w/GMT & friend under my arm

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    Re: Highbanker Attachement for the Keene Sluice Box

    ive noticed that on most of these logging shows, they use Sthil saws!

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    Re: Highbanker Attachement for the Keene Sluice Box

    MASSIVE SNOW AND UNGODLY COLD HAVE HIT THE &^%RFDEX@$ so keep the dayjob as long as possible as oldman winter is finally here with a vengence-YAHOO water for a ol'dredge dog to go play in-and today on the 7th day it is GOOD-tons a au 2 u2 -John

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    Re: Highbanker Attachement for the Keene Sluice Box

    hey 63
    look into Poulan
    I was on my way to a spot in the sierras to metal detect in the early 90s my saw took a dump on me, I spent all day trying to fix the dam thing, just would not fire up. just bent traveling all over and the price of the sthl and husqy over rat ed, i bought a Poulan its been with me ever since and performs great

    Highbanker attachment for a Keene Sluicebox? sold many, and never had anyone come back with a negative
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    Re: Highbanker Attachement for the Keene Sluice Box

    +1 on the Poulan. I bought a Poulan Wild Thing (40cc I think)10 or 12 years ago and just can't kill it. It's been through 6 or 8 chains and 2 bars and still going strong. Stihl and Husky are great but this is half the cost or less. Not sure buts its probably lighter too.

    Good luck on your adventure! How high are you heading?

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    Re: Highbanker Attachement for the Keene Sluice Box

    63bkpkr,

    Hoser tells the truth about the weather here in the northern part of the state. Over here on the the coast, the Smith River went from a summer like low of 1,100 cubic feet per second flow on Wednesday of last week to 109,000 cfs on Thursday (the next day). Up in the canyons you could here the boulders rocken and rollin down the stream.

    Good luck on the job hunt, the streams are getting the gold ready for you when the weathers improves.

    Mike
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    Re: Highbanker Attachement for the Keene Sluice Box

    Thanks again fellas,
    Your water/weather updates confirm what I just got off of the USGS Real Time Water Flow Data web site for CA. The NFAR WAS at about 80 CFS but late on 20 Jan hit 7000 cfs, Indeed the rivers are preparing the 2012 Gold Prospecting arena!

    The Poulan saws, do they have a built in automatic oil pumper for the chain? Yes the Stihl/Husqy lines are pricey but for sure the Stihl's can be depended on and they have built in oil pumps so no thumb pumping manually while sawing and the right amount of oil gets to the chain/bar all the time. I've settled on which Stihl to buy IF I go that way but even a small unit is in the $300 area, to early to tell what I will do with that.

    As it would be a winter trip I do not expect to be camping at more than 2500' elevation but as it would be a winter trip a fire will be needed all the time I am awake or else I will simply be miserable all the time and hence the chain saw as my little hand saw will not allow me cut that much wood and prospect in the same trip.

    The work in the city seems to be in flux right now so I will see what happens in another week with city jobs.

    Keep them "cards & letters" comin via ones and zeros on the Tnet, thanks a bunch................63bkpkr
    Out searching w/GMT & friend under my arm

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    Re: Highbanker Attachement for the Keene Sluice Box

    63bkpkr,
    I have been doing high climbing and tree trimming around powerlines for 14 years, both saws you mentioned are great saws. The Husky is going to be heavier than the Stihl saws but the Husky will have a better RPM range. Great for falling timber, If you are just cutting camp wood I would suggest a Stihl o18c or a o26. The 018c can be up graded to a little longer bar and chain that would work great for small camp wood. If you are looking to cut camp wood and the occasional wood for the house then I would get an o26 or even one step up from that. I paid $189.00 for a o18c that I bought almost 8 years ago new and it's still running like a champ. I have seen many a Stihl saws dropped from well over 60' without any damage, saw one dropped from 70+ feet and never even stopped running, just knocked the air filter cover off. I think you can get a new small Stihl for right around $200.00. I take mine everywhere.
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    Re: Highbanker Attachement for the Keene Sluice Box

    Howdy Again Folks,
    I continue to research this High Banker thought of mine and have started looking at complete units from California Sluicebox as well as Angus MacKirk. The MacKirk Klondike looks like a top of the line unit while the CA Sluicebox GMS looks like a simpler, likely adequate but not as solid of a unit as the Klondike. Any Comments?

    Also, any plans someone is willing to share for a frame and legs for the CASluicebox High Banker mod to the Keene A52? CAS does not offer the frame and legs as a purchased item, Keene does at $80 with shipping. These purchased parts now come up to ~ $170 and that is why I started looking at a complete system and I would not need to fool around with the carpet.

    Just thinking..............63bkpkr
    Out searching w/GMT & friend under my arm

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    Re: Highbanker Attachement for the Keene Sluice Box

    Le Trap is superior and no carpet,the original is the best.Got pix of a cleanup using one with 2.5+ pounds in it around here somewhere. More rain and it was good but we still need mo'mo'mo' . Dredging last thursday was RIGHTEOUS in the sun and plenty of fun-tons a au 2 u 2 -John

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    Re: Highbanker Attachement for the Keene Sluice Box

    i do like my LT sluice!its great for cleanups from my dredge.just clean out the dredge sluice and put the LT in the dredge sluice and run the pump slow and just add the cons slowlu and it wash off the sand/gravel and leave the fine gold and nuggets if i ever find one!

 

 
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