5 Gal Bucket Hopper for Highbanker
Welcome guest, is this your first visit?
Member
Discoveries
 
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 20
Like Tree48Likes

Thread: 5 Gal Bucket Hopper for Highbanker

« Prev Thread | Next Thread »
  1. #1
    Charter Member
    us
    I can dig it! "WP"

    Mar 2007
    Arizona
    Whites TM 808, Whites GMT, Suction Dredges, Hand Dredges, Trommels, Gold Vacs, High Bankers, Fluid bed Gold Traps, Rock Crushers, Sluices, Dry Washers, Miller Tables, Rp4 Shaker table etc. etc.
    5,646
    4614 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    5 Gal Bucket Hopper for Highbanker

    After seeing trommels made from 5-gallon buckets..................
    It gave me the idea to make a hopper from one to convert a 10" X 48" sluice into a highbanker.

    Already had a free (from the local bakery) 5-gallon bucket with lid. Went to bulldog recycling and spent $1 for a grizzly.
    Used my oscillating multifunction tool (from harbor freight) to make the necessary cuts.

    Used a heat gun to soften the plastic so it was easy to bend into place for the hopper opening.

    Pop riveted the grizzly through the bucket and into a 9" long 3/4" corner aluminum so the bottom edge of the exit port would be flat.

    Removed the handle from the bucket and drilled a 1/4" hole through where the wire was attached then used a 1/4" X 1-1/2" bolt on each side for the supports to attach.

    Added the spray bar and used the same 1/4" x 1-1/2" support bolts to also hold the clamps in place. Clamps are 3/4" used to hold conduit.
    Of course there are many ways to construct the spray bar, including just aiming the water into the bucket from a single tube like the gold hog piglet.
    Much easier and simpler than the route I chose.

    Also I could have used the same diamond plate aluminum that I scavenged at Bulldog recycling for $1 a pound that I built the sluice box with but I just wanted to try a 5 gallon bucket for the hopper.

    Works fine and will take a full unclassified #2 shovel load at a time.
    After this build I'm pretty sure that I could make a decent 10" X 48" flat bottom sluice box from 5-gallon buckets.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	bucket1.jpg 
Views:	42 
Size:	1,016.4 KB 
ID:	1808981 Click image for larger version. 

Name:	bucket2.jpg 
Views:	42 
Size:	1.03 MB 
ID:	1808983
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	bucket3.jpg 
Views:	28 
Size:	1.04 MB 
ID:	1809097 Click image for larger version. 

Name:	bucket6.jpg 
Views:	25 
Size:	367.5 KB 
ID:	1809104


    GG~
    Last edited by Goodyguy; Mar 07, 2020 at 06:49 PM.

  2. #2
    us
    Just Another Old Guy

    Feb 2008
    Grays Harbor in Washington state
    Whites Spectrum XLT with about 1/4" of dust on it
    689
    1253 times
    Prospecting
    Zesty!
    Goodyguy likes this.
    I'm a drinker with a heavy prospecting problem and I'm out of dirt again

  3. #3

    Mar 2005
    Canada
    Garrett- Master Hunter CX,Infinium, 1350, 2500, ACE 150-water converted 250, GTA 500,1500 Scorpion, AT Pro
    3,981
    2681 times
    Great job on the hopper! Due to it's shape, size and plastic, it could easily be attached to another highbanker and field repaired if necessary. Is that matting in it the bottom "Trimmable Riffled TPR Light Weight Sluice Box Matting?" I am holding off purchasing some Owl Matting pending your results.

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	april6b.jpg 
Views:	26 
Size:	244.9 KB 
ID:	1809116
    Goodyguy likes this.
    Wife + 4 kids (no grandkids yet)Orthopedics RN, photagraphy,writer, build electronic gizmos, previous hot air balloon pilot, coin collector for 40 years.

    "METAL DETECTING IS A HOBBY AND HOBBIES ARE MEANT TO BE ENJOYED"

  4. #4
    us
    Mine President, XPBC, XGIH, GDR, stamp mill operator, snuffer bottle owner/operator.

    Dec 2013
    Arcata, California
    Fisher 1212-x Fisher Gold Bug 2 Whites 4900/SP3 Dowsing rods
    855
    996 times
    Prospecting
    Looks a lot better than my 5 gallon bucket hopper!
    Goodyguy likes this.

  5. #5
    Charter Member
    us
    I can dig it! "WP"

    Mar 2007
    Arizona
    Whites TM 808, Whites GMT, Suction Dredges, Hand Dredges, Trommels, Gold Vacs, High Bankers, Fluid bed Gold Traps, Rock Crushers, Sluices, Dry Washers, Miller Tables, Rp4 Shaker table etc. etc.
    5,646
    4614 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by John-Edmonton View Post
    Great job on the hopper! Due to it's shape, size and plastic, it could easily be attached to another highbanker and field repaired if necessary. Is that matting in it the bottom "Trimmable Riffled TPR Light Weight Sluice Box Matting?" I am holding off purchasing some Owl Matting pending your results.
    You are absolutely right John!

    I actually built the hopper for my plastic drop riffle sluice with the long slick plate that the mat was purchased for. Problem was the plastic sluice had sides that are at an angle not the 90 degrees necessary to seal the mat against the sides. Plus the mat is 10 inches wide and the plastic sluice had a 9" bottom.

    Well I wanted to take advantage of the full size of the mat so I put together the sluice shown above. In the meantime I came down with the flu and have not tested the mat as yet. I had already tested the hopper on the plastic sluice before the mat came in.

    Dont worry as soon as I'm able I will test the mat and let you know the result. Just so you know, when I do a test, I do it with a known quantity of gold of different sizes and shapes. The gold seeded paydirt is not introduced to the hopper until after the mat is completely loaded with sterile (containing No Gold) dirt. Then after the gold laden paydirt has been introduced I will run at least a couple more gallons of sterile dirt before doing a clean up.

    I've seen tests on youtube that run gold only with no dirt at all to evaluate a mat and to me that is not the best way to test a mat that is going to be loaded with black sand and gravels while being used in the field.

    One test that stands out in my mind was a side by side test between Dream Mat, Miracle Mat and Gold Hog Mats performed at a gold show. Of course the dream mat won hands down. Which meant absolutely nothing to me knowing that I would not be running gold by itself down any sluice.
    Just to prove my point I think I will first run my test gold by itself and then compare those results with those using my normal testing procedure.

    Here is that video............





    GG~
    Last edited by Goodyguy; Mar 07, 2020 at 09:26 PM.

  6. #6
    us
    Feb 2010
    Kenai, Alaska
    Fisher GB II. Whites GM II.
    440
    344 times
    GG, I too am anxiously awaiting your test��. Get well soon!
    Goodyguy and russau like this.

  7. #7

    Mar 2005
    Canada
    Garrett- Master Hunter CX,Infinium, 1350, 2500, ACE 150-water converted 250, GTA 500,1500 Scorpion, AT Pro
    3,981
    2681 times
    Quote Originally Posted by Goodyguy View Post
    You are absolutely right John!

    I actually built the hopper for my plastic drop riffle sluice with the long slick plate that the mat was purchased for. Problem was the plastic sluice had sides that are at an angle not the 90 degrees necessary to seal the mat against the sides. Plus the mat is 10 inches wide and the plastic sluice had a 9" bottom.

    Well I wanted to take advantage of the full size of the mat so I put together the sluice shown above. In the meantime I came down with the flu and have not tested the mat as yet. I had already tested the hopper on the plastic sluice before the mat came in.

    Dont worry as soon as I'm able I will test the mat and let you know the result. Just so you know, when I do a test, I do it with a known quantity of gold of different sizes and shapes. The gold seeded paydirt is not introduced to the hopper until after the mat is completely loaded with sterile (containing No Gold) dirt. Then after the gold laden paydirt has been introduced I will run at least a couple more gallons of sterile dirt before doing a clean up.

    I've seen tests on youtube that run gold only with no dirt at all to evaluate a mat and to me that is not the best way to test a mat that is going to be loaded with black sand and gravels while being used in the field.

    One test that stands out in my mind was a side by side test between Dream Mat, Miracle Mat and Gold Hog Mats performed at a gold show. Of course the dream mat won hands down. Which meant absolutely nothing to me knowing that I would not be running gold by itself down any sluice.
    Just to prove my point I think I will first run my test gold by itself and then compare those results with those using my normal testing procedure.






    GG~
    I don't give much credence with that test either. Without starting any arguments about that dream mat, I will say that I am much more comfortable with 4 cups of black sand from my 4' highbanker, (without dream mat ) then 1 cup of black sand with a dream mat. My own ratios - mathematical calculations indicate that there is a ratio between black sand and fine gold. The more black sand, the more gold. And there will always be a loss of gold, no matter how minuscule. Our job as prospectors is to get that loss to a low percentage as possible. And that is the reason highbanking is so much fun!

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	pig luck.jpg 
Views:	17 
Size:	75.6 KB 
ID:	1809276
    Goodyguy, Noah_D, russau and 2 others like this.
    Wife + 4 kids (no grandkids yet)Orthopedics RN, photagraphy,writer, build electronic gizmos, previous hot air balloon pilot, coin collector for 40 years.

    "METAL DETECTING IS A HOBBY AND HOBBIES ARE MEANT TO BE ENJOYED"

  8. #8
    us
    Just Another Old Guy

    Feb 2008
    Grays Harbor in Washington state
    Whites Spectrum XLT with about 1/4" of dust on it
    689
    1253 times
    Prospecting
    I too have reservations about the "derby" test since all mats are not created equal.

    1. Not all mats work their best at the same angle and water flow as others.
    2. Clean gold will behave a lot differently than running fine black beach sand mixed with .0001% super fine gold.

    Had it been run under more realistic conditions one mat at a time, feeding at the same speed, with each at it's optimum angle and water flow rate, mixed in with 10 buckets or more per gram, the final results might be a lot different.

    Just my opinion and I know doing something like that would take to long to be practical for a live public demonstration.
    I'm a drinker with a heavy prospecting problem and I'm out of dirt again

  9. #9
    Charter Member
    us
    I can dig it! "WP"

    Mar 2007
    Arizona
    Whites TM 808, Whites GMT, Suction Dredges, Hand Dredges, Trommels, Gold Vacs, High Bankers, Fluid bed Gold Traps, Rock Crushers, Sluices, Dry Washers, Miller Tables, Rp4 Shaker table etc. etc.
    5,646
    4614 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by mike(swWash) View Post
    I too have reservations about the "derby" test since all mats are not created equal.

    1. Not all mats work their best at the same angle and water flow as others.
    2. Clean gold will behave a lot differently than running fine black beach sand mixed with .0001% super fine gold.

    Had it been run under more realistic conditions one mat at a time, feeding at the same speed, with each at it's optimum angle and water flow rate, mixed in with 10 buckets or more per gram, the final results might be a lot different.

    Just my opinion and I know doing something like that would take to long to be practical for a live public demonstration.
    Good points Mike

    Running beach sand is on my bucket list of gold recovery techniques that I haven't yet tried. It sounds challenging and no doubt requires specialized equipment and know how, looking forward to getting my feet wet at the beach some day and trying my hand at taking on the challenge.

    As far as my simple test for the tpr mat goes it probably wont meet the beach sand standard but here in Arizona I'm stuck with desert sand and gravels with some slimy dirt (when wet) thrown in just to make it interesting.

    Since I'm new to this particular tpr mat I will first have to find the optimum angle, flow and feed rate for the material I'll be running to give it a fair test.
    Also the material being run will be classified to 3/8" and less. With that being said I'm not doing this as a complete evaluation with all the variables included.

    If I had the funding and the time I would love to do a comprehensive study and comparison evaluation of all the leading mats on the market.
    In simplest terms it all boils down to finding a medium compatible with using fluid dynamics to best sort and capture particles based upon specific gravity.

    However, in my opinion there is no one size fits all recovery medium due to the considerable amount of variables involved, such as the non constant degree of fluid viscosity encountered when running a re-circulating system vs a system with a constant fresh water supply, or a full scale wash plant vs a small scale sluice box, or non classified material vs 1/8" material, and the list goes on.




    Go for the Gold,
    GG~
    Last edited by Goodyguy; Mar 08, 2020 at 09:42 PM.
    russau likes this.

  10. #10
    Charter Member
    us
    Wolf Pack!

    Jan 2014
    Brookings-Harbor Oregon
    Bounty hunter gold digger Keene A52 with Gold Hog mats Keene A52P Blue Bowl Gold-N-Sand hand dredge
    7,120
    12002 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Nice! I need to build that. Years ago I was going to build this one... Mike's hand trommel. T-net member I believe?
    Mike's Hand Trommel
    Goodyguy and russau like this.







    Freedom is something that dies unless it's used.


    Time is like a river. You cannot touch the same water twice, because the flow that has passed will never pass again. Enjoy every moment of your life.

    A student said to his master, "You teach me fighting, but you talk about peace. How do you reconcile the two?"
    The master replied, "It is better to be a warrior in a garden, than to be a gardener in a war."

  11. #11

    Jun 2017
    160
    214 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    optimum angle and flow for one mat will not be the same for another. Hence the need to tune YOUR sluice to YOUR conditions.
    Goodyguy and russau like this.

  12. #12
    us
    Mike

    Dec 2014
    Bodfish and Marin county CA
    Garrett , Whites keene puffer drywasher , Keene A51 Sluice
    415
    1081 times
    Drywashing , Sluicing , Panning
    Here a pic of my Hillbilly Highbanker.
    Keene a51 fits perfect in a walker and the square bucket fits perfect in the a51.
    Walker and bucket found in dumpster -- Keene at a garage sale.

    Cheers Mike
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	Hilbilly highbanker.jpg 
Views:	31 
Size:	126.1 KB 
ID:	1809725
    Stay thirsty my friends

  13. #13
    Charter Member
    us
    I can dig it! "WP"

    Mar 2007
    Arizona
    Whites TM 808, Whites GMT, Suction Dredges, Hand Dredges, Trommels, Gold Vacs, High Bankers, Fluid bed Gold Traps, Rock Crushers, Sluices, Dry Washers, Miller Tables, Rp4 Shaker table etc. etc.
    5,646
    4614 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodfish Mike View Post
    Here a pic of my Hillbilly Highbanker.
    Keene a51 fits perfect in a walker and the square bucket fits perfect in the a51.
    Walker and bucket found in dumpster -- Keene at a garage sale.

    Cheers Mike
    Love it!
    Bodfish Mike likes this.

  14. #14

    May 2005
    St. Louis, missouri
    5,930
    4621 times
    I only wish my ole bod would have held out for a couple more years.................I sure would have liked to build this & USE IT !!!!! Great build GG !
    Goodyguy and goldenwonderbear like this.

  15. #15
    us
    Just Another Old Guy

    Feb 2008
    Grays Harbor in Washington state
    Whites Spectrum XLT with about 1/4" of dust on it
    689
    1253 times
    Prospecting
    It all boils down to doing your homework and trying different and sometimes expensive failures to learn.

    Rules of thumb.....
    1. Match the sluice capture mediums properties to the gold you have available!
    2. Listen to many others and go with the best constant info for your type of gold.
    3. Go for the small gold, the big stuff will take care of itself.
    4. Do not fold, spindle, mutilate or remove this tag under penatly of law
    I'm a drinker with a heavy prospecting problem and I'm out of dirt again

 

 
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Sponsored Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Similar Threads

  1. Highbanker hopper design
    By Jakel in forum Dredging & Hi Banking
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: Mar 25, 2015, 10:44 PM
  2. Jobe highbanker or Gold buddy highbanker
    By silverstateprospector in forum Dredging & Hi Banking
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: Sep 01, 2014, 07:57 PM
  3. Bucket highbanker with hydraulic/fluidized bed riffles
    By Astrobouncer in forum Dredging & Hi Banking
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: Jan 17, 2014, 02:36 PM
  4. Replies: 3
    Last Post: Aug 14, 2012, 03:27 PM
  5. need some help with a hopper for a highbanker
    By dhead17602 in forum General Discussion
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: Apr 08, 2009, 09:54 PM
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.3.0