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  1. #16
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    That was easy.
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  2. #17
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    you can use a hair dryer if you don't have a heat gun. Works great.
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  3. #18
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    Well, that was.. no it wasn't.

  4. #19
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    Rook

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    Hope you can get it comfortable. I take the control off my Deus and it's like swinging a Bear switch.
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  5. #20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch View Post
    Ok, I managed to get my mess of an arm cuff to the lower position. This puts it in a much better place on my forearm, and I'll now lose the strap and either heat the cuff and bend it, or build it up on the sides to fit my arm a little better. Think I should be ok now.
    I picked up rubber knee pad at the Dollar Store and cut it to fit in the arm cuff. Makes a nice soft fit for my arm.
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  6. #21
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    Why not just use the included strap and pull it tight instead of heating it up?
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  7. #22
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    Good luck. Shortening the shaft and heating the cuff has helped some folks. Some put more $$$ into an aftermarket lower shaft. I went back to the Deus as I have been running circles around the other the machines. Been doing Indian artifacts lately though.
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  8. #23
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    good info. I've been having similar bicep and elbow issues with the Equinox.
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  9. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripvanb View Post
    good info. I've been having similar bicep and elbow issues with the Equinox.
    Me too, Great thread, Patch!
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  10. #25
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    Rawhide

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    Just picked up the Nox myself and found it light. But being unbalanced it made my wrist swell. I did find a simple solution as the arm rest bolt cross threaded when I first put the Nox together. The holes in the shaft were offset and the armrest bolt which i could not feel or see happening cross threaded. So after taking the dremmel to get the stuck arm rest bolt off I purchased some plastic ties. Then just off setting the bottom part of the arm rest called the stand I affixed it with plastic ties and cut off excess tie. Not perfect weight balance but sure I could add weight if I wanted. I can add a picture later if anyone is interested. For now Im going detecting.
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  11. #26
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    Wrist/arm/shoulder fatigue -- or even pain -- is something that I know several folks deal with, with the Equinox. It's one of the machine's few (in my opinion) shortcomings -- too much weight at one end (the coil end), and nearly ZERO at the other (butt) end. Thus, it's an unbalanced machine, forcing you to exert the necessary force with your wrist/arm/shoulder to counteract that nose-heaviness.

    Along with the other ideas mentioned in this thread which can help reduce the issue, another thing that helps with the nose-heaviness, and resulting ergonomic issues, is to run your lower rod a bit shorter than you otherwise might. Having the coil in closer to your feet (i.e. the machine in a bit more "vertical" position), while you swing, reduces the "leverage effect" of the coil. Think of how much harder it is to hold the detector out in front of you, parallel to the ground. Try that -- sort of in a "shooting from the hip" position, and see how heavy the machine feels, and how difficult it becomes, in a short period of time, to hold the machine level/parallel to the ground. From that perspective, the more "upright" you swing your machine, the "lighter" it feels, and the easier it is on your "swinging arm" (as would be expected from a leverage/physics perspective).

    If all of these options mentioned here don't help, the other very good (in my biased opinion, LOL) option is COUNTERWEIGHTING. Using counterweighting really does help. You can rig something up to counterweight the machine in a DIY manner, OR -- I offer that option (a nice, carbon-fiber, removable and adjustable counterweight) with my carbon-fiber shafts...

    Steve
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  12. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch View Post
    Ok, I managed to get my mess of an arm cuff to the lower position. This puts it in a much better place on my forearm, and I'll now lose the strap and either heat the cuff and bend it, or build it up on the sides to fit my arm a little better. Think I should be ok now.
    Funny how little things cause big problems. My old sovereign caused pain in the shoulder until I put a straight shaft on it. Just the angle of the wrist caused all that. Look for the tiny things.


    Sounds corny, but consider getting a bottle of Absorbine Jr. old school YES but it really helps my shoulder. Best part? It don't stink!!!
    Last edited by boogeyman; Mar 30, 2019 at 11:04 AM.
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    I know it's here, just need a bigger coil!

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  13. #28

    Feb 2017
    Pa
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    +1 on Steves Equinox CW rods. Can swing the 800 all day long. No longer a nose heavy pig!
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  14. #29
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    I appreciate the kind words, sir!

    Thank you!

    Steve
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  15. #30
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    Coinshootist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Patch View Post
    That's a good point, and not something I considered... that the positioned where the cuff is mounted may also be part of the problem. I'm also now question if even moving it, as well as losing the strap, will be enough for it to feel good enough for me to want to swing. I wonder if buying an Anderson shaft would be a good idea, or would just be a distinction without a difference.
    I purchased the Anderson shaft due to the same issues, and can attest that this shaft WILL NOT help you with this issue. It will stabilize the "wobble" from the original shaft, but the Nox is still nose heavy.

    I recently bought a custom shaft from Steves Custom Fiber Equinox Shafts in the classifieds who makes custom NOX shafts with a counter weight in the back of the shaft. I have only used it one time for 3.5 hrs, so I cannot give an honest opinion on it yet. After this weekend (I have an 8+ hour hunt planned for Sat) I will update you on my experience.
    Last edited by DeepDigs; Apr 04, 2019 at 12:27 PM.
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