Act of Civil War: Sheriff stands up to BLM agents

[TheHarleyMan2]

What most people don't realize is that the ONLY JURISDICTION EQUIVILENT to a Sheriff is the U.S. Marshal and Department of Justice. That means FBI, CIA, and other federal agencies DO NOT SUPERCEED the Sheriffs authority in ANY COUNTY OR STATE!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheriffs_in_the_United_States

I here this garbage all the time, so PROVE it.

I gave you the facts. You call it garbage, that is your choice. The Sheriff has more power than most people realize. Fact is YOU PROVE IT being garbage. Maybe you should read up and ed u ma cate yourself on the Sheriff's authority. You might be surprised at what you may learn!!

Hey Lost Cause, HMMMM, no wonder!!! your screen name fits you! here is another link.

http://constitutionallawenforcementassoc.blogspot.com/

 

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[lostcauses]

What most people don't realize is that the ONLY JURISDICTION EQUIVILENT to a Sheriff is the U.S. Marshal and Department of Justice. That means FBI, CIA, and other federal agencies DO NOT SUPERCEED the Sheriffs authority in ANY COUNTY OR STATE!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheriffs_in_the_United_States

I here this garbage all the time, so PROVE it.

I gave you the facts. You call it garbage, that is your choice. The Sheriff has more power than most people realize. Fact is YOU PROVE IT being garbage. Maybe you should read up and ed u ma cate yourself on the Sheriff's authority. You might be surprised at what you may learn!!

Hey Lost Cause, HMMMM, no wonder!!! your screen name fits you! here is another link.

http://constitutionallawenforcementassoc.blogspot.com/

Amusing and wrong.

 

[TheHarleyMan2]

Hey Lost Cause. I know you probably live in another country and most likely are abrupt to look at the facts. I PERSONALLY KNOW a county Sheriff here in Texas and the facts I posted are RIGHT!

So as I said, if you think it is garbage, PROVE IT!!! Come on don't be shy, lets see YOUR PROVEN FACTS. You make a statement but yet you SHOW NO PROOF! It seems that there are people here who do correct members at times with FACTUAL POSTS, but unlike you, you just want to make a snod remark, but yet you PROVED NOTHING!

Have a good day and pip pip cheerio Lost Cause!

 

[TheRandyMan]

Fascinating reading on that link to Sheriff Mack's website... I am greatly encouraged that there is another line of defense built into the Constitution that I never actually realized was there. There are certainly numerous amounts of abuses going on with federal over reaching...not the least of which are the ridiculous things connected with the actions of the BLM. I will certainly be researching this further and would like any other information or links you may have in connection with this. Thanks, TheHarleyMan!

 

[GrayCloud]

This federal government, along with the joker in the White House, have far over reached their authority and walked all over the Constitution. Thanks to the Sheriff Departments that are standing up to some of their abuse, as they are one of the last lines of defense. After them, it will be on us.

 

[AUDuke]

AUDuke, I am with you as for saving the Wild Horse Herds. I have no issue there and would even agree to reducing the cattle count on open range to save the horses. But to say that big ranchers are costing us money by free grazing, I beg to differ. BLM (Government Control) is the problem, not the ranchers. This is just my opinion and you certainly have the right to yours.

I don't think I said that the ranchers are costing us money by free grazing. Most ranchers pay thier grazing fees.

 

[lostcauses]

"KNOW a county Sheriff here in Texas"

Good go ask him what his education is.

 

[lostcauses]

Wow. I am always amazed at the way that people would change this country! Most of the posters now instinctively that the federal government was not formed to own property and was in fact formed to protect free peoples ability to own property without competeing with the government.
At around the Teddy Roosevelt era he made a huge push to protect lands from the Americans he swore to defend. Factually I have to agree that there are a couple of places that I am glad are not private property because I love to see them. But the BLM lands are nearly blasphemous.
This practice is a huge overeach of government, And the process of Leasing these properties is not much more than marxism in picking winners and losers of buisiness.
We must not forget that we were born free and should respect and defend our freedom when needed. Any argument that allows for the Feds to have undo powers on lands just because they did an unconstitutional grab for them is not really a defensible stance.
I do not think that violence is going to be the answer, but I think that we must educate Americans, because our politicians can't, they would not have power if they allowed it!

"marxism"
Oh you mean Marxism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism
Does not quite fit what you are saying, but I am sure it is a term you have heard used before in such arguments.


"Any argument that allows for the Feds to have undo powers on lands just because they did an unconstitutional grab for them is not really a defensible stance."

And were and when was this done??

As for the "Feds":
just be careful who you vote for. Only a very few in the United States make the laws of the land.
Part of the problem this day an age.

 

[TheHarleyMan2]

"KNOW a county Sheriff here in Texas"

Good go ask him what his education is.

Thats RIGHT! And he stands for the Constitution AND THE PEOPLE!!

I don't need to ask what his education is but I can certainly guess what yours is, "A Lost cause"! You STILL HAVEN'T PROVED ME WRONG!

Evidently if you HAD an ed u ma ca tion you might POST some FACTS PROVING ME WRONG, but then again maybe you don't know WHERE to look for the facts that don't exist!

Can someone here help him out?

 

[Gravel Hog]

Comic Relief: (and true story)

Ran into a bunch of those Civil War history buffs and they were telling me about an re-enactment coming up and how I should come and see it.
I just had to go and tell them "why re-enact it lets just start up a new civil war, it certainly is needed."
They laughed but I was dead serious.

 

[Hoser John]

1776 in 2011 is doable bud in AK-tons a au 2 u 2-John

 

[Dave44]

Read much las cuases?
That link you sent did indeed use different labels but the end result is the same, I guess it is just a name that you have heard yourself indentifiesd as and decided to make it fit.
As the start of a socialist revolution "Marxism" (capitalized so that it's import can be given for you), the marxist will control buisinesses and the government, so that the appearance of capitalism still existed uhntil the time was ripe for the heavy hammer and sickle. And a good subversive "Marxist" would try to ensure that this fledgling government would have all the power it needs, Plus Assets to put down any uprising. Another form of slavery.
Do not feel bad,
I was educated in that town but I guess I missed the let's all be a huggy comune group. But then anybody with any logic can see any that these transitions and governments do not end well.
You really nearly came up enlightened until you found the "Marxist" reference

 

[lostcauses]

"KNOW a county Sheriff here in Texas"

Good go ask him what his education is.

Thats RIGHT! And he stands for the Constitution AND THE PEOPLE!!

I don't need to ask what his education is but I can certainly guess what yours is, "A Lost cause"! You STILL HAVEN'T PROVED ME WRONG!

Evidently if you HAD an ed u ma ca tion you might POST some FACTS PROVING ME WRONG, but then again maybe you don't know WHERE to look for the facts that don't exist!

Can someone here help him out?

I asked you to prove what you said and you cant. Plain and simple, You redirect me to prove you wrong when it is you that say you are right. Simple diversion tactic, due to you can not.

The local law enforcement, elected or not; is constrained with in the laws of the state and county, or municipality they are in.

Fun and very old game on boards.. I can quote from the constitution to show were the "Feds" have the power and right.

Pull up the authority of your Sheriff by the state, county and municipality and learn.
Stop being sheep.
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As for types of government, always an interesting argument due to the bias of the people involved, it can get amusing trying to define one over the other.

As for the US today we supposedly have the Democrats and the Republican idea.
Of course the ideas that was used to construct the Constitution was Federalist. That group does not exist today as a power in our government.
Yet today the government officials are financed by those with the money. Namely industry.
So who ends up with the power, and control over them that are elected??

So who does have the authority to enforce the laws and rules of the US government??

Shall we go back to letting the US military enforce them, as was in the constitution at one time??
It did not go over to well way back when the military was used to remove squatters from government land.


You folks say the "Feds: have to much power. Yet it is the people you elect that can make changes to the constitution by amendments etc, and they have, right or wrong.
People should remember we are not really a democratic society.
The few make the rules the rest have to live by. Should we just ignore the one we do not agree with??
Or should we as Americans group together and vote in people that can change the situation?

So far the last part does not seem to be doing so well. All in time it seems.

This type of statement is all to familiar this day an age. "lets just start up a new civil war, it certainly is needed."
They laughed but I was dead serious."

Were as in most cases said as a joke, is it??

Even statements by the Sheriff are a symptom of today: divide among the people in the US.

But what is actually causing the divide
High gas prices??
Companies so large they can blackmail the world into bailing them out if they go broke??
Industry and companies manipulating them in power for laws and rules; for there own gain over the rights of states and people??
Because them oil companies can go out and drill were ever they want at the moment??
Because you cant take your ORV any were you want no mater what the consequence may be??
Because you cant metal detect were you want no mater what??
Because you can dredge were ever you want??
Because you can not hydrolic preasure mine where ever you want??

The inability to get way from people for a time??
Because you can do what you want, anytime you want??

What??
What is really behind the discontent??

 

[Frankn]

Lostcause, looks like the Harley Man has you by the gonads on this one. Looks like the Supreme Court has made a decision on this one, and there decision is shall we say supreme! Frank

 

[Gravel Hog]

So back to the talk of civil war, 1776, "We The People", So I'm all in but looks like it is a "lostcause" here.

 

[lostcauses]

So back to the talk of civil war, 1776, "We The People", So I'm all in but looks like it is a "lostcause" here.

ROTFLOL I like it the lostcauses thing..
As for civil war how do you propose to do such a thing??

 

[lostcauses]

Lostcause, looks like the Harley Man has you by the gonads on this one. Looks like the Supreme Court has made a decision on this one, and there decision is shall we say supreme! Frank

Which supreme court decision??

 

[Frankn]

The link listed in Harley's post. Justice Scalia layed it all out for all to see.
Frank

 

[GrayCloud]

Au Duke, Not trying to beat this horse to death,,,But the answer to your question is on Post #6.

Taxpayers = Us.

 

[AUDuke]

Au Duke, Not trying to beat this horse to death,,,But the answer to your question is on Post #6.

Taxpayers = Us.

What question?