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    Those who protested chose how. while i applaud their small gains i am not disillusioned over class structure in this country,study Mississippi's people living in conditions little removed from before protests. They can vote yes. Are they equal and able to rise?. Its not one state by any means,or race. always a culture being stepped on. While a minority has to fight for written rights its methods and efficiency need to be measured against why rights are denied and how denial is enforced. When you are out gunned martyrdom best hope when taking up arms. Not uncommon in this world but also inspiration for peaceful protest/polite disobedience. Ghandi likely read Thoreau,s civil disobedience when he studied his work, did he see hope or futility in what was not popular at the time it was written? Were arms an option? Jim Corbett reported poor quality illegal guns around 1930 when trying to relieve natives of pressure/terror of hundreds being killed by tigers. But again what would they have been up against in an feebly armed protest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0121stockpicker View Post
    Well... I remember the "burnings". Detroit, Watts...

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    no it would not have been successful if it was violent revolt.. stockpicker what are you gettin at ??
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    This Thread seem to be Morphing into something strange.... and getting to far off topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G.A.P.metal View Post
    This Thread seem to be Morphing into something strange.... and getting to far off topic.
    LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by G.A.P.metal
    no it would not have been successful if it was violent revolt.. stockpicker what are you gettin at ??
    I'm heavily questioning the assertions being made on this board that guns are needed to gain and protect ones rights. I don't see many examples of when armed us citizens have taken on the US government and created positive change for themselves. I know everyone has the testosterone pumping screaming "pry it from my cold dead hands". But it's just foolish and completely unrealistic. And in the end would accomplish nothing but dead people. Ill let you folks get back to it boo yah !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0121stockpicker View Post

    I'm heavily questioning the assertions being made on this board that guns are needed to gain and protect ones rights. I don't see many examples of when armed us citizens have taken on the US government and created positive change for themselves. I know everyone has the testosterone pumping screaming "pry it from my cold dead hands". But it's just foolish and completely unrealistic. And in the end would accomplish nothing but dead people. Ill let you folks get back to it boo yah !!!
    The fact there haven't been. Armed uprisings against the govt. Is proof guns have held the govt. In check.....
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    But without an example its not possible. Not very inventive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselram94

    The fact there haven't been. Armed uprisings against the govt. Is proof guns have held the govt. In check.....
    The government has certainly not been in check - correct.

    The government trampled on the rights of blacks, woman etc for decades and decades. those people got their constitutional rights not by violent uprising but by peaceful revolution.

    The south rose up with arms against what it viewed as a tyrannical government, as did the panthers, Waco, etc and they were crushed.

    Who else on this board thinks the government has been held in check?? I think you will get a lot of disagreement on that one. Aren't you one of the folks who believe the government is always overstepping its bounds? Or has someone
    Stolen your handle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel - KGC View Post
    POLITICAL discussions pertaining to 2nd Amendment; STILL... POLITICS! PRE-Selected, eh...? BIBLE, OR; "GASP".... G*D...? Don't "look" at me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treasure_Hunter View Post
    rebel if you don't like the rules on the second Amendment you're more than welcome to contact the admins and voice your complaint, it was the admins decision to allow Second Amendment posts.

    Mods are following admins directives. Don't challenge them in the forums, you want to challenge them do it via pm to mods or admins.
    NOT challenging you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0121stockpicker

    The government has certainly not been in check - correct.

    The government trampled on the rights of blacks, woman etc for decades and decades. those people got their constitutional rights not by violent uprising but by peaceful revolution.

    The south rose up with arms against what it viewed as a tyrannical government, as did the panthers, Waco, etc and they were crushed.

    Who else on this board thinks the government has been held in check?? I think you will get a lot of disagreement on that one. Aren't you one of the folks who believe the government is always overstepping its bounds? Or has someone
    Stolen your handle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treasure_Hunter View Post
    rebel if you don't like the rules on the second Amendment you're more than welcome to contact the admins and voice your complaint, it was the admins decision to allow Second Amendment posts.

    Mods are following admins directives. Don't challenge them in the forums, you want to challenge them do it via pm to mods or admins.
    TY; didn't KNOW about "admins decision" as stated above. ("Post" # 190, etc)...
    BTW, can I have a copy of the Admins directive...? (or just "post" it... MAY help...)
    Last edited by Rebel - KGC; Jan 24, 2013 at 12:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselram94 View Post
    No violence? I guess this administration didn't get the memo....remember fast and furious?
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