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    Virginia Approves Bill To Undermine Obama Gun Control

    Virginia Approves Bill To Undermine Obama Gun Control

    Gun owners say legislation doesn’t have any teeth

    Steve Watson
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    Jan 28, 2013

    The Virginia House of Delegates approved a bill Friday that would see state agencies and employees forbidden from helping to enforce Federal gun control measures in the state.

    The Virginian-Pilot reports that the Militia, Police, and Public Safety Committee of the House approved House Bill 2340, which will now proceed to a vote on the House floor.

    The measure’s official summary states that the bill would “Prevent any agency, political subdivision, or employee of Virginia from assisting the Federal government of the United States in any investigation, prosecution, detention, arrest, search, or seizure, under the authority of any federal statute enacted, or Executive Order or regulation issued, after December 31, 2012, infringing the individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms by imposing new restrictions on private ownership or private transfer of firearms, firearm magazines, ammunition, or components thereof.”

    Republican state delegate Todd Gilbert told the Pilot that the bill will ensure that “no employee of the commonwealth or any of its political subdivisions should help the federal government tread upon our long-held belief that Second Amendment rights are highly individualized and very important.”

    The legislation was introduced by Del. Bob Marshall, R-Prince William County, and was approved by the Republican-controlled Delegates’ Committee by 15-7 votes, following a short debate.

    “This is really an assault on second amendment rights and it has nothing to do with gun safety,” Marshall said in regards to the federal legislation.

    Another measure introduced by Marshall, now under review, would also allow teachers or others to be trained and carry a concealed weapon in public schools. Under current law schools in the state are currently designated gun free zones.

    Though gun owners see these moves as positive, some have warned that the legislation is merely posturing and does not constitute any real opposition to the federal gun control proposals.

    “If we don’t put some teeth into it, it’ll be useless,” Mike McHugh of the Virginia Gun Owners Coalition told the committee. “I think we’re coming to a point in this country where the states are going to have to finally decide – and I hope it doesn’t end up like years ago – that we’re going to have to face down Barack Obama’s federal plantation.”

    The bill also does not include any mention of what punishments would be handed out to any state or local employees who did enforce federal measures.

    Obama is pushing for universal background checks for all private gun sales, as well as the reinstatement of the assault weapons ban. However, the measures are expected to be defeated in the U.S. Senate.

    The president outlined 23 gun control executive orders earlier this month.

    Virginia is one of the states that has seen an exponential surge in gun sales following the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre and the resulting Obama push for draconian gun control laws.

    In the days immediately following the Newtown shooting, gun dealers requested nearly 5,150 background checks on purchasers in Virginia. That figure amounted to the largest number ever in a single day, according to Virginia State Police.

    Since that time, the number of background checks requested per day has frequently been double 2012 figures.

    Virginia law allows anyone who is 18+ to carry a firearm openly. Anyone over 21 can apply for a concealed carry permit.

    Several other states including Wyoming, Texas, Mississippi, and Tennessee have already introduced legislation to make it illegal for local and state police to enforce federal gun control measures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red James cash View Post
    Several other states including Wyoming, Texas, Mississippi, and Tennessee have already introduced legislation to make it illegal for local and state police to enforce federal gun control measures.
    Corect me if I'm wrong but doesn't Federal law override State law?
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    Guns kill people, and people kill people. We can only hope to control both.
    Nullification was resolved about 175 years ago. It seems interesting to me that many of the places that want to use Pre-civil war discredited legal maneuvers are in fact those states that were in Rebellion...

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    Many people around the country are fed up with the feds.Including politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseyben View Post
    Corect me if I'm wrong but doesn't Federal law override State law?

    Same thing will happen as the States that voted in Marijuana Legal,the Feds will try something to stop it,only thing is pot ain't lead,what do you think the outcome will be?
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    Law had to be constitutional or it is not a law......Senator Rand Paul is introducing legislation in Senate to repeal any executive orders king obama tries to use to bypass congress on gun control.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treasure_Hunter View Post
    Law had to be constitutional or it is not a law......Senator Rand Paul is introducing legislation in Senate to repeal any executive orders king obama tries to use to bypass congress on gun control.....
    King Obama...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treasure_Hunter View Post
    Law had to be constitutional or it is not a law......Senator Rand Paul is introducing legislation in Senate to repeal any executive orders king obama tries to use to bypass congress on gun control.....
    Laws cannot simply be ignored. One cannot choose to simply "not recognize a law" just because one doesn't agree with it.

    King Obama? He is our President. USA doesn't have kings, queens, or other royalty.
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    Does that give them the right to break the law? Pass laws that are illegal on their face? Waste the time and money of the taxpayers of their state and the nation? Stupid is as stupid does?
    Quote Originally Posted by bevo View Post
    Many people around the country are fed up with the feds.Including politicians.

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    Uh, Exactly what do you think these executive orders were? What do you think they did? Please answer honestly and do not go out searching to find out now what they were...

    Quote Originally Posted by Treasure_Hunter View Post
    Law had to be constitutional or it is not a law......Senator Rand Paul is introducing legislation in Senate to repeal any executive orders king obama tries to use to bypass congress on gun control.....

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    Jersey, a law that violates constitution is invalid and not a legal law from the day it is passed... I can refused to follow any law that violates the constitution. I have no problem hiring an attorney.

    I swore oath to defend the constitution from all enemies foreign AND domestic long before you were born, that oath is valid till the day i die no matter what king charles obama says...
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    King Obama? He is our President. USA doesn't have kings, queens, or other royalty.
    Your right,Der Fuhrer,fits so much better.Thats one of your problems jersey,youre following a corrupt socalled man, not the constitution.Now does a real American follow a man or follow the law of the land which is the constitution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treasure_Hunter
    Jersey, a law that violates constitution is invalid and not a legal law from the day it is passed... I can refused to follow any law that violates the constitution. I have no problem hiring an attorney.

    I swore oath to defend the constitution from all enemies foreign AND domestic long before you were born, that oath is valid till the day i die no matter what king charles obama says...
    That is incorrect. When the proper court determines that a legislative act (a law) conflicts with the constitution, it finds that law unconstitutional and declares it void in whole or in part. This is called judicial review. The portion of the law that is declared void is considered to be struck down, or the entire statute is considered to be struck from the statute books. Best

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    My attorney will handle that, i will not recognize a law that violates the constitution....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treasure_Hunter
    My attorney will handle that, i will not recognize a law that violates the constitution....
    Than I guess using that logic you would recognize yourself as a violator of the constitution as you would be violating the constitution by not recognizing the constitutional law process proscribe by the constitution. I guess it's just up to you to determine what is and what isn't constitutional - isn't that what you accuse Obama of doing?

 

 
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