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davest

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If you know of any unhomeless illegals, turn them in. If you know of any homeless vets............................................................what do you think you should do? Just wondrin.
 

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If you know of any unhomeless illegals, turn them in. If you know of any homeless vets............................................................what do you think you should do? Just wondrin.

Turn them in to who? If you do you have the R word put on you. If you help a vet you get to be a conservative (That's a good thing) Or ask the king why the vet is homeless.
 

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Could it be that they came into the country over the 'wrong' body of water? Frank...

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well, since we are celebrating the anniversary of the Iraq invasion, why are the veterans homeless? I thought that when this entire thing started we were patriotic enough to disregard cost, knowing full well what it would bring and assurances were made that they would not be neglected or have problems like homelessness. Now the latest cost analysis for their treatment and care says it will be something like 10 trillion over the life time of the youngest Iraq vet in the way of medical care and other support items. (psst that means 10 trillion covering all, not just one youngest vet). Maybe you should demand better for the veterans, but that would require standing up for something besides the 2nd, and it would require an increase in taxes, or instead of an increase, perhaps we could get GE, Halliburton, Verizon, Google, Microsoft and a bunch of other corporations to pay their taxes instead of sheltering them. But hey, it's your call. And while you're sorting that out, what happened to the weapons of mass destruction?
 

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what happened to the weapons of mass destruction

That is a good question, seeing that he must of had them cause he used them.He used them on his own people I'm sure when you make it you just don't make a little bit. Now the threat of war was discussed and all over the news for weeks. We know Sadam was a little nuts but not stupid. For one we had a news media bent on showing bush as a complete wacko In fact everything he did was not good enough for the goofs that fell for their crap.

Even back then both sides believed he had them, Talk was he could have moved them, Well now Syria has some. or do they? Ask a lib. He'll tell you.
 

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Heres what happened to the WMD


MI6 and CIA were told before invasion that Iraq had no active WMD

BBC's Panorama reveals fresh evidence that agencies dismissed intelligence from Iraqi foreign minister and spy chief


Richard Norton-Taylor
guardian.co.uk, Monday 18 March 2013 02.00 EDT



Fresh evidence has been revealed about how MI6 and the CIA were told through secret channels by Saddam Hussein's foreign minister and his head of intelligence that Iraq had no active weapons of mass destruction.

Tony Blair told parliament before the war that intelligence showed Iraq's nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons programme was "active", "growing" and "up and running".

A special BBC Panorama programme aired on Monday night details how British and US intelligence agencies were informed by top sources months before the invasion that Iraq had no active WMD programme, and that the information was not passed to subsequent inquiries.

It describes how Naji Sabri, Saddam's foreign minister, told the CIA's station chief in Paris at the time, Bill Murray, through an intermediary that Iraq had "virtually nothing" in terms of WMD.

Sabri said in a statement that the Panorama story was "totally fabricated".

However, Panorama confirms that three months before the war an MI6 officer met Iraq's head of intelligence, Tahir Habbush al-Tikriti, who also said that Saddam had no active WMD. The meeting in the Jordanian capital, Amman, took place days before the British government published its now widely discredited Iraqi weapons dossier in September 2002.

Lord Butler, the former cabinet secretary who led an inquiry into the use of intelligence in the runup to the invasion of Iraq, tells the programme that he was not told about Sabri's comments, and that he should have been.

Butler says of the use of intelligence: "There were ways in which people were misled or misled themselves at all stages."

When it was suggested to him that the body that probably felt most misled of all was the British public, Butler replied: "Yes, I think they're, they're, they got every reason think that."

The programme shows how the then chief of MI6, Sir Richard Dearlove, responded to information from Iraqi sources later acknowledged to be unreliable.

One unidentified MI6 officer has told the Chilcot inquiry that at one stage information was "being torn off the teleprinter and rushed across to Number 10".

Another said it was "wishful thinking… [that] promised the crock of gold at the end of the rainbow".

The programme says that MI6 stood by claims that Iraq was buying uranium from Niger, though these were dismissed by other intelligence agencies, including the French.

It also shows how claims by Iraqis were treated seriously by elements in MI6 and the CIA even after they were exposed as fabricated including claims, notably about alleged mobile biological warfare containers, made by Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, a German source codenamed Curveball. He admitted to the Guardian in 2011 that all the information he gave to the west was fabricated.

Panorama says it asked for an interview with Blair but he said he was "too busy".

• The Spies Who Fooled the World, BBC Panorama Special, BBC1, Monday, 18 March, 10.35pm
 

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The invaders must have thought all of the WMD were stashed at Irac's Ministry Of Oil building since it was one of the first buildings to be secured. I figure they (WMD) were all destroyed after the last time Sadam got his ass spanked in 1991.
 

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