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  1. #31
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    Howdy Crosse,

    I just know that El Vigilante de Tayopa hits that concoction purity hard, and his long list of wild stories seems to indicate that sometimes the sock is not that clean. He even tells us that his mule looks quite lovely.

    Homar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosse De Sign View Post
    Hi, Bigdogdad: Very Interesting, Have You Gotten Some Spirits On Your Side? Just Curious If You May Have Developed Some Good Insight In Your Experiences... I Have Heard Of People Talking To Them... Heard Firsthand Stories And In Person... Anyway, Thanks For Your Input, And Look Forward To Any More Thoughts... Thanks, ~: CDS :~
    Many times we have been on a possible treasure site and had our electronics malfunction. A battery that should have been fully charged is now dead. A metal detector making a bunch of crazy sounds that it had never made before. We were just on a site and my detector has a graph and it just started bouncing which it had never done before. I have a site where I think some treasure is buried in a railroad trestle tunnel. I always pictured it buried at a certain spot. I took a picture one time and there is a glowing orb right above the water in the exact spot.

    I really do think there are spirits looking out for the treasures. What I have started doing is just basically asking them to help me or allow me to dig up what is there. I have promised them that I would share anything found with as many people as possible. I am hoping my personal spirits will help me win them over. I actually have now started putting my hands together when I lay down to go to sleep and asking for help and guidance on this. I would call this praying.

    It is possible that the spirits are not just protecting the treasure from you but may be also protecting you from the treasure and related evil spirits. I do believe that there are both good and bad spirits. Sort of like angels so to speak. The main power that they have is to influence what you think. Usually the closer you get to a treasure the more they may try to convince you to quit. You have just got to believe and keep trying. I am working on it even as I type this. Sometimes putting thoughts into written words can have an effect on what you are trying to accomplish.

  3. #33
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    @Bigdogdad,
    I agree with a lot of what you are saying - though the scientist in me will not let me call them 'spirits' (being 'good' or 'bad'). I believe there is _something_ (for lack of a better word), magnetics, electrical interference, whatever - and I also believe that in the end - there might well be a scientific explanation for most experiences. However, just like with ufo's - I don't beleive absolutely all can be explained away. Also - if we cannot prove it to be some logical explanation for it - spirits might be as good a solution as any. For the 'man-in-the-street' - yeah, spirits will explain it all, so we can settle on that. As I said - I don't personally believe in spirits - but hey - I have been wrong before and I will be wrong again ... I will have no problems accepting that spirits exist ... ;-) - but ... I will have to experience it/them first which has (so far) not happened - hence - I personally don't believe in them (mostly a matter of statistics)
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    DO HIDDEN TREASURES HAVE WATCHERS OR REAL SPIRITS?
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  5. #35
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    Close Ivn the Terrible, but ---/

    Don Jose de La Mancha
    "I exist to live, not live to exist"

  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loke View Post
    @Bigdogdad,
    I agree with a lot of what you are saying - though the scientist in me will not let me call them 'spirits' (being 'good' or 'bad'). I believe there is _something_ (for lack of a better word), magnetics, electrical interference, whatever - and I also believe that in the end - there might well be a scientific explanation for most experiences. However, just like with ufo's - I don't beleive absolutely all can be explained away. Also - if we cannot prove it to be some logical explanation for it - spirits might be as good a solution as any. For the 'man-in-the-street' - yeah, spirits will explain it all, so we can settle on that. As I said - I don't personally believe in spirits - but hey - I have been wrong before and I will be wrong again ... I will have no problems accepting that spirits exist ... ;-) - but ... I will have to experience it/them first which has (so far) not happened - hence - I personally don't believe in them (mostly a matter of statistics)
    Howdy Loke,

    I used to be just like you my friend, I would always discount ghost stories since I had never seen any ghosts myself. I still haven't experienced anything personally. I believe that there are some like you, and I, that may be unable to see these things, while there are others that have this ability. There are many things that remain unexplainable in this world.

    What has changed my views? I have a son who works as a LEO, and has been called to check out many alarms that go off at night in local businesses of our small town. On most nothing is found out of place, but there have been some where the security cameras inside show a ghostly figure. One of these you can clearly see that it sits down on the office chair.

    On one of these alarm checks, there had been a report some months back by a local mechanic. He had seen a child inside a dollar store late at night, so he called it in. No one was found inside that night. A few months later, the alarm went off, my son and two others checked it out finding everything in order. Just as they had completed they were called back because the alarm was trigger again. This time they found a lot of toys on the floor in the toy isle.

    An other story that convinced me had first been told to me in a beer joint by a man who was originally from Durango Mexico. He was employed as a ranch hand here in our county. He had gone to check some cattle early one morning on the Herradura Ranch where his boss had grazing rights. This is in Lasalle County, Texas on hwy 624 in the middle of nowhere. When he got down to open the gate he noticed a woman walking by the side of the hwy, with very long hair, looking down. She never showed her face. He was going to ask her if she needed any help, but had hesitated since he only spoke Spanish. After he opened the gate, he couldn't find a trace of her.

    This man later asked told the ranch neighbor just across the hwy, about the woman. The ranch neighbor told him he had also seen her, but walking just inside the pasture. Several years later, a couple coming back to town at night down that same hwy, reported a lady walking down the side of the hwy, close to the entrance of the Heradura Ranch, with very long hair, looking down, never revealing her face.

    My son tells me that several calls have come in over the years from different people describing the same woman. That has made me a believer even though I have never seen anything personally. I tell my friends that if I am ever so fortunate, and get to see this woman, I will follow her.

    Homar

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    -- think of a "natural" recording --sort of a natural "vcr" loop playing when conditions are "correct" -- we know that both sound and video images can be "recorded" and played back via "iron oxide" (rust) on tape after its being "electrically charged "--this could account for "repeating ghost" images that do the same exact thing over and over again --just like a movie clip playing over and over again .

    and thru tv we know that electronic images can travel thru time and space (both sound and images) were broadcast thru the air in pre cable days --it took a few seconds of time to travel from the place of broadcast to your tv -- and it crossed distance --so "electronic images" can travel thru both time and space.
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  8. #38
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    ?? Ok Ok tell me how I could answer Ivan's post before he posted it? Hmmm

    Don Jose de La Mancha
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  9. #39
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    I have had a guiding spirit (?) or whatever since day one on Tayopa ---interested ?

    Don Jose de La Mancha
    "I exist to live, not live to exist"

  10. #40
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    Hi Luv, you above all, know about DUENDES, being from Alamos.

    Jose
    Last edited by Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp; Apr 11, 2014 at 03:33 PM.
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    I think that most of us have some sort of "guardian angels" looking out for us. How many times have you had a voice in your head warn you right before you are about to do something stupid? Then what happens when you do it anyway? How many times have you come VERY close to getting hurt or maimed but escaped without a scratch? I take a lot of chances. I have lived a very dangerous life-skydiving, scuba diving, car/motorcycle racing, demolition derbies, crawling in dangerous places, picking up poisonous snakes, sticking my hands where they don't belong, blowing stuff up, walking dark dangerous alleys at night and much, much, more. In spite of my stupid ways I am still in one piece and have never gotten seriously hurt. Is it just dumb luck or do I have my angels doing overtime?

    Something I have learned and want anyone reading this to ask yourself, is there ANYTHING in your life that you really, really tried to do and then failed? Did you do everything you could to make something happen and then could not do it? I think that the majority of people don't really put out the honest effort that it takes when the going gets tough. They give up too easily. People seem to want instant success.

    My belief is that your angels/spirits/guardians or whatever will help you as long as you are willing to help yourself. If you don't give up they won't give up on you. How many times have you had those little small miracles of good luck or timing happen. Probably pretty often. I know it happens to me on a regular basis. You make your own luck.

    I think there is treasure of all sorts buried or hidden all around us. All you have to do is start looking and then try to look in the right place. Ask for help from anywhere/anyone that you can. My plan is to share any treasure I find with other deserving people. Maybe the spirits will believe me and give me help and guidance. If you surround yourself with good people that seem to have good luck maybe you can bring their spirits in to help the common cause.

    Another thing that I have seen many times is that if you ask for guidance and then keep your eyes and ears open you will sometimes see a very obvious sign showing you what to do or where to go. Ask and you shall receive is an old saying. Try it. Ask nicely. Don't forget to say please and thank you. It works.

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    Don Jose de la Mancha aka Tropical Tramp - quit teasing, put down that brush for your mule and start talking!

    I will tell you of a treasure related haunting, though there is no buried treasure. My brother had moved into a place a few miles from where I lived, and not long after moving in, he started experiencing all kinds of activities which most people would call haunting or poltergeist. Knocking, thumping, doors opening by themselves, lights turning on and off by themselves, even a terrible sobbing sound. There is no near neighbor to attribute any of this to, and we did a little investigating to turn up what might have been causing it.

    A friend of my mother's had wonthe Readers Digest sweepstakes, which made the woman suddenly wealthy. She was then old and had a common-law husband, and had made a living up to that time by her milk goats, selling the milk to local hospitals and to a few individuals whom preferred goat milk (for stomach ailments etc). On winning the prize, she sold her little farm and bought a new place, which was the same place which my brother had moved into years later.

    After moving in to her new home, she only lived a few years before passing on. Her fortune was mostly gone by that time, but some bad people believed that her husband had that fortune, and this bad family (a mother with two grown outlaw sons) soon started making their move to get it. The mother tried to romance the old man, but he did not seem too interested; he was more interested in hunting coons and his coon dog. The next trick was the two sons paid the old man a night time visit, and over the course of hours, slowly beat the old man to death, trying to get him to tell where he had hidden the fortune. They never got the fortune for he did not have it, nor were they ever prosecuted for it even though there was some evidence to prove it.

    When we discussed this with my brother, and then proceeded to speak directly to the spirit of the old man whom had to suffer such a terrible death and for no reason, suddenly all of the haunting activities stopped. My brother never had another incident so long as he lived there.

    I have heard the theory that at least some of these hauntings are the spirits of the dead wishing simply to be acknowledged, and this incident or series of incidents seems to fit that theory.

    Now Don Jose - start talking!

    And to everyone, please do continue! (Very good posts!)
    Oroblanco
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdogdad View Post
    I think that most of us have some sort of "guardian angels" looking out for us. ...
    My opinion is that your thought is true. However, I don't believe you can use this to help fulfill your wishes and desires. I suspect those who find treasure had it in their destiny.
    ​Adios, amigos - it's been interesting.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosse De Sign View Post
    Hi, Springfield: Destiny?... I think that is a very, very interesting perspective, and intriguing belief...

    Still, do you think one could possibly miss their destiny, say if they didn't believe, keep trying, to persevere, or press into that conceived thought, wish or desire, with some strong belief (faith to do it), and work to make it happen, to see it become reality?...

    Who sets up, or pre-determines such possible destinies? How are they then planted, implicated, driven? Excellent Perspective... Thanks, ~: CDS :~
    I believe we have free will to choose, say, corn flakes over oatmeal for breakfast, but for the most part I think most of our lives' events just happen, with little control in our own hands. What will be, will be; the world's a stage and we all have parts to play; etc. If you toss out the concept of linear time, then all things are happening at once and we all experience everything simultaneously. Time is just a gadget used to keep track of all the details. Don't worry - you'll find a treasure 'some day'. When your number comes up. Unfortunately, you may have to be a mass murderer too. Infinite experiences. Who sets it all up? Well, that's the big question, isn't it?
    ​Adios, amigos - it's been interesting.







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    Don Jose de la Mancha - we are waiting! (hint!) Not to mention another promise you made, which quite a few people are also waiting for! Start talking amigo!
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