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    Warning to dog owners who hike in the woods

    Walking my wife’s pup in the woods today. Went a couple feet off a trail to sniff around a stump and got caught in a leg hold. Thank god it wasn’t a Conibear. I got cut on something popping him out. Think I got the worst of it.
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    The trap that kills more dogs than any other is a simple snare. Completely silent, and quickly lethal. Glad you were there to get your dog out.
    Jim

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    Lure or bait attracted the dog.
    A stump made a good spot to make a " set".
    Either a canine pee post type ,or a cache type ,lure nearby and bait in hole under stump , maybe. (Fox like to hide food sometimes).

    Good job releasing the dog.
    When it showed interest you noticed. Next time....a more nervous approach might signal you to give a leave it command. Smart lookin dog though might have it figured out itself.

    Who owns the property you were on?

    I have a coyote trapper working mine with my blessing.

    You might have cut yourself on a trap stake.

    Dog should be fine. Some swelling a day or two at most. Being pinched briefly ,it may already be over it. Unlike yourself.....
    Last edited by releventchair; Dec 07, 2017 at 08:38 PM.
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    Glad your pup is okay.
    A little more caution when in the woods. I've been pretty lucky so far.
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    I have nothing against trapping. I hunt some. The land is private, but open for hikers. Scared the dog more than anything.
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    I don’t think snares are legal in VT. I’m going to have yeti look that up. I guess a good pair of wire cutters would take care of that. Leg holds are easy to release. Conibears are another story. I would think anyone who walks in the woods should read up on how to release a pet from a trap. I would think a flatlander would freak out and not know what to do.

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    Glad your pup is okay.
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    you are a good man Tom
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    Conibears are bad news, but usually outdoor dogs are too big to fit in them. And, if your dog ranges out very far, the wire cutters won't help on a snare...
    the dog will be dead before you ever know it's in the snare. That's my biggest concern with Heidi, she ranges out, and then back, and I don't usually know exactly where she is. But, I pay attention for signs of trapping activity in the places we roam. If I think it's being worked, I go elsewhere.
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    Last edited by Jim in Idaho; Dec 09, 2017 at 07:38 PM.
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    Wow Tom, that's amazing. So glad it ended relatively better than it could have. I have to remark that all who have replied are seemingly so casual about this. What the H are they trapping? No, that's a stupid question, as I am aware of what critters wander in the north woods. Why are they still trapping? Are skins still that valuable? Real curious what financial gains justify this in populated areas.


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    It doesn't have to make economic sense. No more than detecting makes economic sense. People trap because they enjoy trapping. It's an outdoor pursuit, and one that can pay for itself.
    Heck, a couple of years ago, in a town not far from my home, a government trapper put out an exploding cyanide device for coyotes. This device was placed within a 1/2 mile of homes! So, along comes a 15 year old kid with his dog. The dog uproots the device and it goes off, spraying the dog with cyanide. The dog dies....the kid is sickened but survives. He also has continuing health issues. The guy putting out the device got off scott-free, though he violated several rules about the placing of the device. These devices are still being used, and if you're running around BLM lands, you could easily run into one, and under the right circumstances, it could kill you...not just your dog. So why no outrage? Personally, I see no valid reason for the use of these to kill coyotes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho View Post
    It doesn't have to make economic sense. No more than detecting makes economic sense. People trap because they enjoy trapping. It's an outdoor pursuit, and one that can pay for itself.
    Heck, a couple of years ago, in a town not far from my home, a government trapper put out an exploding cyanide device for coyotes. This device was placed within a 1/2 mile of homes! So, along comes a 15 year old kid with his dog. The dog uproots the device and it goes off, spraying the dog with cyanide. The dog dies....the kid is sickened but survives. He also has continuing health issues. The guy putting out the device got off scott-free, though he violated several rules about the placing of the device. These devices are still being used, and if you're running around BLM lands, you could easily run into one, and under the right circumstances, it could kill you...not just your dog. So why no outrage? Personally, I see no valid reason for the use of these to kill coyotes.
    Jim
    Jim, I have never heard of cyanide devices, exploding no less. That is truly a criminal device. For a recreational pursuit, a non selective trap, left out there to catch anything that sniffs around, is a far cry from swinging a metal detector. The person may gain tremendous enjoyment from it, but IMO it's careless, thoughtless, and selfish. If you cause harm to innocent creatures, like someone's dog, I strongly suggest a different form of recreation. This isn't the early 1800's, there are people, kids, and pets everywhere. Stupid dog, sure hoped he learned from that. Ass backward logic.


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    Place I detect has a guy trapping there. There are fluorescent markers set very close to each trap he sets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokeythecat View Post
    Place I detect has a guy trapping there. There are fluorescent markers set very close to each trap he sets.
    That will help you, does your cat or dog recognize the meaning of markers? Just saying. Mad Toms post, the injury caused to his dog and himself, got my blood up. Once, while deer hunting ( a selective form of harvest ), in the foothills near Vassar, Idaho, as I neared a clearing when day was breaking, I caught a heavy fishing line across my neck, and cow bells started ringing. I didn't know what the H just happened! Apparently a weed grower's alarm system, left in place long after harvest. I wasn't injured, and spent the next hour or more reeling in this trap, and collecting a couple cow bells. Another example of thoughtlessness. It was like 50 lb test mono.


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    This is the first time that I had heard of this problem. I wish that you both are in better health.
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