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  1. #16

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    LMAO. Nope, but lots of white chocolate.

  2. #17

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    "skepticism is a belief system in itself", hmmm, no
    skepticism is a position, doubting Thomas if you would; all propositions will be tested (nothing on faith)
    for me skepticism is a methodology

    "A fine line between Genius and Insanity?" picture a globe, inscribe a line; that's it in your head - slowly revolving

    life is kinda like the tides, back and forth, up and down; many years ago I got into this psychic stuff, ever hear of Silva Mind Control ?
    heavy duty meditation, theta NOW; then lots more, viewing etc. etc
    for me a different universe

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillA View Post
    we are all (too) familiar with stories of mediums and glass balls communicating with . . . insert whatever
    and ghosts too are familiar to all; but why do some see or hear while others do not?

    is communicating with spirits a particular skill?
    or a specific individual trait?
    or perhaps a chosen tribe for a specific spirit?
    or perhaps a specific spirit for certain functions?

    is communication one way, and if so - which way (up or down?, hot or cold?, light or dark?)
    if communication is 2 way, is an answer (or guidance) always received?
    can more than one participate?

    all of the above questions can be answered, debated, and/or rejected; but the question posed here is a bit different
    -> can one improve, enhance, or augment the ability to communicate with the other world? (as its commonly referred to)

    we have history to guide us; shamen have been talking with the gods, excuse me I ment spirits, since before written history; and in places the activity is an unbroken chain to this day

    it seems to be reasonably accepted that an essential step towards communication is to reduce/suppress the outside influences/distractions of the moment (noise, light, etc.) to facilitate concentration - and there are lots of ways to do this
    it seems desirable to highly stress the body physically to induce a light-headed trance like state - and this is done routinely by depravation of food or water or sleep, bloodletting, self-flagellation, extreme exhaustion, etc.

    so what happens if the receiver won't work?
    you listen intently . . . . . but nothing (other than the wind in your ears, or tinnitus)
    is there help for the deaf ?

    indeed there is, the path has been delineated by the shamen over the ages and every continent; use the mouth to open the brain
    and the list of stimulants, intoxicants, hallucinogenics, et all is stupefyingly large containing the good, the bad, and the poisonous
    note that government has defined many of these to be illegal, but one can visit Central or South America and puke your guts out there

    does such work?
    yes, but not for the mentally weak who may (and do) go nuts, suicide, go into a coma, etc.
    it seems unstable people are prone to breaking (who wudda thought?)

    thoughts?



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  4. #19

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    agreed, drugs are popular
    agreed, some can function while doped to the gills

    but it is questionable which drugs may enhance "psychic" communication
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillA View Post
    agreed, drugs are popular
    agreed, some can function while doped to the gills

    but it is questionable which drugs may enhance "psychic" communication
    Simply?.......NONE.

    You have to be born with that capacity.

    Everything else is a hoax.

    (or a money maker tool to skim the credulous)


  6. #21

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    hmmm, goes directly to my original questions
    or a specific individual trait?

    my personal experience would seem to concur; i.e. I was not born with those 'psychic' genes.
    I learned to meditate but nothing else.

  7. #22

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillA View Post
    "skepticism is a belief system in itself", hmmm, no
    skepticism is a position, doubting Thomas if you would; all propositions will be tested (nothing on faith)
    for me skepticism is a methodology

    "A fine line between Genius and Insanity?" picture a globe, inscribe a line; that's it in your head - slowly revolving

    life is kinda like the tides, back and forth, up and down; many years ago I got into this psychic stuff, ever hear of Silva Mind Control ?
    heavy duty meditation, theta NOW; then lots more, viewing etc. etc
    for me a different universe

    This is a belief system.


    This is Science.


    A scientist must remain NEUTRAL in his belief system, not assume a "position", in order to conduct and evaluate valid investigation.

    Faith or no faith, suspension of 'belief', a place in between.

    And that place is also where the phenomena you are researching and asking for feedback on, lies. It's where a lot of other gray area phenomena, like I allude to in the Tuning In thread, lie as well. How do you separate your skepticism from one phenomena to the other? Cognitive dissonance?
    Last edited by Ditlihi; May 15, 2019 at 05:07 PM.

  8. #23

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    ahh, I will state it if you wish (some mixed wording coming)

    I live/reside in/on a spot on that globe I referred to above, a mixture/blending of forces defines the location.
    I have a bias, intentionally; and it is slightly negative - always. No accident, premeditated, volitional.
    Why am I purposefully somewhat negative? Dead tired of a lifetime of disappointments, wrong info, bad info, blah blah blah
    If my suspicion is that I have another load of crap, and it is sunshine I am ecstatic. More crap I just pitch as normal.

    I understand neutral, science is not a matter of opinion (lived and worked there 40 years, expert witness for attys).
    Every time I pick up a document my bias prepares me for more junk.
    With time on TN I can drop that bias if I recognise the poster, I'm sure we all do the same.

    so did you ever encounter Silva Mind Control ?

  9. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillA View Post
    it is questionable which drugs may enhance "psychic" communication
    McKenna had his favorite. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ce+mckenna+dmt
    "Well, yeah, that's just, like, your opinion, man."
    Jeffrey "The Dude" Lebowski, 1998

  10. #25

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillA View Post
    ahh, I will state it if you wish (some mixed wording coming)

    I live/reside in/on a spot on that globe I referred to above, a mixture/blending of forces defines the location.
    I have a bias, intentionally; and it is slightly negative - always. No accident, premeditated, volitional.
    Why am I purposefully somewhat negative? Dead tired of a lifetime of disappointments, wrong info, bad info, blah blah blah
    If my suspicion is that I have another load of crap, and it is sunshine I am ecstatic. More crap I just pitch as normal.

    I understand neutral, science is not a matter of opinion (lived and worked there 40 years, expert witness for attys).
    Every time I pick up a document my bias prepares me for more junk.
    With time on TN I can drop that bias if I recognise the poster, I'm sure we all do the same.

    so did you ever encounter Silva Mind Control ?


    We all have bias, Bill, you are right.

    And, no, I never studied the Silva Method. Wanna share some insight from it?

  11. #26

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    you are using its new name so you have Wikied it

    I took the week long course 3 times, it was super foreign to everything within me. I did learn to meditate and could sit around in theta for hours (they had a cheap brain wave detector). The course progresses through remote viewing into healing, probably the major goal of most I met. I never saw squat nor healed anything, but I did not stay with it.

    I would recommend it for those wishing to learn to meditate, which is quite worthwhile to center oneself and relax.
    40 years later I can still count myself down (into meditation).

  12. #27

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillA View Post
    you are using its new name so you have Wikied it

    I took the week long course 3 times, it was super foreign to everything within me. I did learn to meditate and could sit around in theta for hours (they had a cheap brain wave detector). The course progresses through remote viewing into healing, probably the major goal of most I met. I never saw squat nor healed anything, but I did not stay with it.

    I would recommend it for those wishing to learn to meditate, which is quite worthwhile to center oneself and relax.
    40 years later I can still count myself down (into meditation).

    No Wiki, I Googled it, lmao. You know there's a 12 step program for Wikipendency.

    I have my own method for meditation that has served me well over the years, why fix it if it ain't broke. And I agree, it's very beneficial.

    But I will look into the Silva thing, I believe I saw a pdf of his book online, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ditlihi View Post
    . . . You know there's a 12 step program for Wikipendency.
    . . .
    and when one graduates they are a Wikipendejo ?

  14. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdcfia View Post
    wow, whata space cadet; I'm from SF originally so I've seen a bit of this, probably not the venue to discuss

    now Maverick1 says one has to be born special to speak with the gods
    eh ?

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    Something about having O - blood, at birth...

 

 
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