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RustyRelics

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Great...After I went down a rabbit hole chasing shoulder script 1910-1919 Coke's markings and falling into a whole lotta bottle makers from eras I did not want to read last night,but of course did....Including Letters on bases (vs symbols)....All chasing a horseshoe. It tain't a horseshoe...(!)

Here's where I fell out...
https://www.glassbottlemarks.com/glass-manufacturers-marks-on-coke-bottles/

I've been looking all morning, with no luck. So far, everyone who has seen it, says they've never seen one like it before.
 

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RustyRelics

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maybe this?


Graham Glass Co. ca. 1916-1918

https://sha.org/bottle/makersmarks.htm

Yes yes yes!!! Thank you so much! Read what this says,

Upside down bottle superimposed over a “G” (ca. 1916-1918)
Although
Toulouse (1971:213)
illustrated an upside
down bottle
superimposed over a
“G” as used by Graham,
the logo was rarely
embossed on bottles
(Figure 9). Bill Porter
has discovered nine
examples – from five
states, all in the South – where the mark appeared on
the bases of a straight-sided Coke bottles (Figure 10). Three examples had embossed heelmarks,
including“18” and “LP” on one example; “48” and “LP2” on another; and “LS” on a final one.
It is likely that the “L” indicated the Loogootee plant, the “P” was the 1916 date code; and the
“S” was a code for 1918. It is also possible that “P” indicated proprietary, and “S” stood for
427
Figure 11 – Paperweight
(Antiques Navigator)
standard. Based on bottle characteristics, Porter estimated the dates
of manufacture as ca. 1914-1916. Keller (1998:25) illustrated the
logo as used in company advertisements (see Figure 2). The mark
was probably more often used in ads and promotional items like
paperweights (Figure 11).
The timing of the “P” date code (1916) is interesting.
Graham began producing hobble-skirt Coke bottles in 1917. In
addition, 1916 is the year that Joe Graham and Frank Miller
received their patent for a bottle machine – blowing the parison stage upside down. The
company apparently moved to the more complex codes discussed below later that same year.





This is awesome! Thank you!
 

RustyRelics

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I'm going to be emailing a friend who researches these kinds of things. He'll know what to look for.
 

Msbeepbeep

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Good afternoon crew mates.

Glad you found the ID on your coke bottle RR. WD is a real sleuth when it comes to info.

It has been a two day- swim, float, drag by boat, out swim shark, floating in keg- thanks (Simon for pulling me out.) kinda couple of days! .....just who told the rum traders I was part of the bargain???
 

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Oh..WD your keg is in it's "usual" place, just save my dagger, never know when I might need it..again!
 

Msbeepbeep

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Good afternoon Rusty. Nice bottle you got congrats.
 

RustyRelics

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Good afternoon Rusty. Nice bottle you got congrats.

Thanks. I emailed a friend, and hopefully he'll "take the case". Bill Porter, the guy who literally wrote the book on this stuff, has only seen 9.
 

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Yes yes yes!!! Thank you so much! Read what this says,

Upside down bottle superimposed over a “G” (ca. 1916-1918)
Although
Toulouse (1971:213)
illustrated an upside
down bottle
superimposed over a
“G” as used by Graham,
the logo was rarely
embossed on bottles
(Figure 9). Bill Porter
has discovered nine
examples – from five
states, all in the South – where the mark appeared on
the bases of a straight-sided Coke bottles (Figure 10). Three examples had embossed heelmarks,
including“18” and “LP” on one example; “48” and “LP2” on another; and “LS” on a final one.
It is likely that the “L” indicated the Loogootee plant, the “P” was the 1916 date code; and the
“S” was a code for 1918. It is also possible that “P” indicated proprietary, and “S” stood for
427
Figure 11 – Paperweight
(Antiques Navigator)
standard. Based on bottle characteristics, Porter estimated the dates
of manufacture as ca. 1914-1916. Keller (1998:25) illustrated the
logo as used in company advertisements (see Figure 2). The mark
was probably more often used in ads and promotional items like
paperweights (Figure 11).
The timing of the “P” date code (1916) is interesting.
Graham began producing hobble-skirt Coke bottles in 1917. In
addition, 1916 is the year that Joe Graham and Frank Miller
received their patent for a bottle machine – blowing the parison stage upside down. The
company apparently moved to the more complex codes discussed below later that same year.





This is awesome! Thank you!

Sweet! I’m glad I stumbled upon a piece of the puzzle for you. Sounds like you got a rare one indeed! Congratulations!
 

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Afternoon Msbeepbeep
 

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Afternoon crew! The Mrs. and I have been landscaping and putting up Christmas decorations.
WD you post some of the funniest vids. Man would I hate to be run through by a reindeer!
 

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Hey and Merry Christmas to you RustyGold.
 

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