FEMA Camp Footage (Concentrations Camps in USA)

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Re: Beech Grove Indiana FEMA Camp - April 5 2006

Got this in a email from an old freind. He's a Lawyer (Yeuch), Seems the power and authority for mass detentions has been around for quite some time. He says the Patriot act has taken these already existing protocols and expanded upon them. Notice I call them protocols because they aren't laws per se'.

16. Letter From the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (Hoover) to the President’s Special Consultant (Souers)1

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1 Source: National Archives, RG 273, Files of the National Security Council Representative for Internal Security 1947–69, Box 36, Problem 11. Personal and Confidential; by Special Messenger. A handwritten notation reads: “Mr. Coyne has suggested that you probably will choose to discuss this with Mr. Lay and Mr. Coyne.” This is followed by an initial that appears to be an “S”. The initials JPC probably indicate that J. Patrick Coyne, NSC Representative for Internal Security, read the letter. Souers sent a non-committal reply on July 14. (Ibid.)
Washington, July 7, 1950

My Dear Admiral:

For some months representatives of the FBI and of the Department of Justice have been formulating a plan of action for an emergency situation wherein it would be necessary to apprehend and detain persons who are potentially dangerous to the internal security of the country. I thought you would be interested in a brief outline of the plan.

Action to Be Taken By the Department of Justice

The plan envisions four types of emergency situations: (1) attack upon the United States; (2) threatened invasion; (3) attack upon United States troops in legally occupied territory; and (4) rebellion.

The plan contains a prepared document which should be referred to the President immediately upon the existence of one of the emergency situations for the President’s signature. Briefly, this proclamation recites the existence of the emergency situation and that in order to immediately protect the country against treason, espionage and sabotage the Attorney General is instructed to apprehend all individuals potentially dangerous to the internal security. In order to make effective these apprehensions, the proclamation suspends the Writ of Habeas Corpus for apprehensions made pursuant to it. The plan also contains a prepared joint resolution to be passed by Congress and an Executive Order for the President which too will validate the previous Presidential proclamation.

The next step in the plan is a prepared order from the Attorney General to the Director of the FBI to apprehend dangerous individuals, conduct necessary searches and seize contraband as defined in the plan. Together with the order to the Director of the FBI the Attorney General will forward a master warrant attached to a list of names of individuals which names have previously been furnished from time to time to the Attorney General by the FBI as being individuals who are potentially dangerous to the internal security.

It should be pointed out that the plan does not distinguish between aliens and citizens and both are included in its purview. If for some reason the full plan is not put into operation it has so been drawn that the section applicable only to alien enemies may be put into effect.

Action to Be Taken By the FBI

For a long period of time the FBI has been accumulating the names, identities and activities of individuals found to be potentially dangerous to the internal security through investigation. These names have been compiled in an index which index has been kept up to date. The names in this index are the ones that have been furnished to the Department of Justice and will be attached to the master warrant referred to above. This master warrant will, therefore, serve as legal authority for the FBI to cause the apprehension and detention of the individuals maintained in this index. The index now contains approximately twelve thousand individuals, of which approximately ninety-seven per cent are citizens of the United States. Immediately upon receipt of instructions and the master warrant from the Attorney General the various FBI Field Divisions will be instructed by expeditious means to cause the apprehension of the individuals within their various territories.

Each FBI Field Division maintains an index of the individuals within its territory, which index is so arranged that it may be used for ready apprehension purposes. Upon apprehension the individuals will be delivered to the nearest jail for temporary detention and action by the Attorney General.

Detention and Subsequent Procedures

The permanent detention of these individuals will take place in regularly established Federal detention facilities. These facilities have been confidentially surveyed and the facilities have been found to be adequate in all areas except in the territory covered by the FBI’s New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco Offices. In these three areas arrangements have been perfected with the National Military Establishment for the temporary and permanent detention in Military facilities of the individuals apprehended.

The plan calls for a statement of charges to be served on each detainee and a hearing be afforded the individual within a specified period. The Hearing Board will consist of three members to be appointed by the Attorney General composed of one Judge of the United States or State Court and two citizens. The hearing procedure will give the detainee an opportunity to know why he is being detained and permit him to introduce material in the nature of evidence in his own behalf.

The hearing procedure will not be bound by the rules of evidence. The Hearing Board may make one of three recommendations, that is; that the individual be detained, paroled or released. This action by the Board is subject to review by the Attorney General and the Attorney General’s decision on the matter will be final except for appeal to the President.

The details of this plan as set forth in this communication have also been furnished on this date to Mr. James S. Lay, Jr., Executive Secretary, National Security Council.

With expressions of my highest esteem and best regards,

Sincerely yours,

J. Edgar Hoover
 

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Montana Jim said:
truckinbutch said:
New Orleans during/after Katrina was a training mission...

Next time the soldiers will be on the outside and we will all be in the middle.

Your text here is based on... what?

I would agree that there were lessons learned that will be used during the next disaster... if you mean training in THAT aspect, well sure. :)

Timberwolf said:
MJ,

Did you notice the guard tower at the beginning of the video? I don't think Disney Land has those.

Also, about 1/3 into the video you will notice that the security fences go from having the barbed wire outward (to keep people out), to inward (to keep people in).
Why would a facility have the barbed wire in? Could it be that they don't want someone to leave?

Have a good one Jim,

TW

Heya TW - :) I used that as an example of "fenced properties"... as common as mailboxes. The barbed wire is to keep people from climbing the fence... obviously. The "Y" Outrigers are more effective than the single outrigged fence toppers. They might have had razzor-tape at one time but that is too inhumane and is now illegal almost everyplace, including military resources fenced areas. Is it to keep someone in? I guess we can speculate in both directions... I can tell you that if that facility does any classified work in the least... at all... the fenceline is a standard thing.

I did not see the "Guard Tower" is that what it is? A "Guard Tower"? It looked like a standard radio tower with a catwalk - a guard tower would offer some protection TW.

Update: Just watched it again... some outriggers face in, some out... and some fence has NO outriggers...


the US forest service has guard towers in the mountains
they have walk ways and barbed wire on them in one way or other
they are called FIRE TOWERS ::) (hint,hint)
 

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The one in Mexia, Texas (my home town) is now Mexia State School.
Previously, Mexia State School was a German Prison of War camp and housed approximately 5,000 POWs.The largest base camp in Texas was located at Mexia, which had a total capacity of fifty-eight hundred.

It was opened in 1946 as Mexia State School, it is home to over 500 persons with mild to profound mental retardation with over 1400 employees on staff.


Wished they let us metal detect there, no telling what a person would find.
 

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Re: Beech Grove Indiana FEMA Camp - April 5 2006

Montana Jim said:
MD Dog said:
Do these people realize what DHS will do with them if their caught filming these facilities let alone publishing them. :P :o

Obviously nothing... you tube has a zillion films of this facility alone. It must be an easy communute for concentration camp groupies. If it was that huge a deal they'd limit access to their fenceline.

I'm having a deja'vue of other posts here...

Guys, I'd drink beer with you all day long and spenculate right along with ya, but I'm too blind to see it I guess... I do respect yer voices though, and think if there's soemthing out there you should expose it for what it is... good luck. Respect...


Thanks Jim,

Most folks would just write us off as conspiracy nuts......maybe we are.
Remember....just because you're not paranoid, doesn't mean that they are not out to get you.
Oh yeah, better make that coffee....gave up the booze 10 years ago :)

TW
 

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MD,
Thanks for the letter.

Edde,
Thanks for the tip on the towers.

Trish,
There should be some interesting finds there.

TW
 

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Timberwolf said:
Thanks Jim,

Most folks would just write us off as conspiracy nuts......maybe we are.
Remember....just because you're not paranoid, doesn't mean that they are not out to get you.
Oh yeah, better make that coffee....gave up the booze 10 years ago :)

TW

You are coinspiracy nuts... LMAO :tongue3:

I DO think there is 10 pecent weird truth coupled with 90 percent made-up crap. However... I guess I'll never know it all till I die and it's revealed. The problem is that most the stuff exists for a reason, then is misinterpreted, then is misunderstood, then suddenly there is a conspiracy. Most stuff is no secret at all... it's just new information. IMO

Coffee it is... I like it even more.
 

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I remember hearing about these "one way in camps" about 10 or 12 years ago on the Chuck Harder radio show. The videos seem to be about that old as well.

From that show I also remember him talking about "black helicopters" over citizen's houses in the middle of the night.
 

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eathabs said:
I remember hearing about these "one way in camps" about 10 or 12 years ago on the Chuck Harder radio show. The videos seem to be about that old as well.

From that show I also remember him talking about "black helicopters" over citizen's houses in the middle of the night.


Yep, Chuck Harder is the guy I first listened too. It was when the Ruby Ridge incident was happening.

Black helicopters over citizen's houses in the middle of the night....been there, done that. About 5-6 years ago.

TW
 

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Montana Jim said:
Timberwolf said:
Thanks Jim,

Most folks would just write us off as conspiracy nuts......maybe we are.
Remember....just because you're not paranoid, doesn't mean that they are not out to get you.
Oh yeah, better make that coffee....gave up the booze 10 years ago :)

TW

You are coinspiracy nuts... LMAO :tongue3:

I DO think there is 10 pecent weird truth coupled with 90 percent made-up crap. However... I guess I'll never know it all till I die and it's revealed. The problem is that most the stuff exists for a reason, then is misinterpreted, then is misunderstood, then suddenly there is a conspiracy. Most stuff is no secret at all... it's just new information. IMO

Coffee it is... I like it even more.

I agree with you. There is always a logical explanation behind most conspiracies. Look at Roswell and Area 51. That was more than likely only a Top Secret aircraft that the government wanted to keep a secret. Then the conspiracy theorists got ahold of it, and it has been their bread and butter every since.

I DO NOT count out the possibility that the U.S. may be invaded someday by a foreign power, and that we will be fighting battles on our streets. I also, DO NOT believe the government is out to get everyone. They do what they have to do to keep our country running. So what ... what if these bases are an extra step towards keeping our country safer. WOuldn't you rather them do it now than to wait? I'd rather have them and not need them than to need them and not have them. Make sense?

For those of you who are waaaayyyy off in left field .... you'd better stock up on beanie weenies and Spam. That's all I can say. :D
 

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Hi Lucky,

No, I'm not stocking up on anything :)
I do find these subjects interesting though.
They tend to make us think. To me, that is what it is all about....thinking for ourselves :wink:

Thanks for your comments,

TW
 

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Timberwolf said:
Hi Lucky,

No, I'm not stocking up on anything :)
I do find these subjects interesting though.
They tend to make us think. To me, that is what it is all about....thinking for ourselves :wink:

Thanks for your comments,

TW

Oh I agree with you. I catch myself asking myself "What If" sometimes. I don't begrudge anyone their opinion on something. After all .... it's a free country .... for now anyway. :D
 

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Timberwolf said:
MJ,

Did you notice the guard tower at the beginning of the video? I don't think Disney Land has those.

The "guard tower" is just a typical railyard light tower, you can find towers just like it in old railyards across the country. I remember seeing the video of this place, and all the "iron mountain" tapes in the mid 90's when my roommate went off the deep end and and decided the government was about to round everyone up and force them to work in the coal mines or some such nonsense.

I don't know what's going on at the old amtrack depot, but I know one thing for certain, if it was a military or other top secret federal facility like they imply in the video, there is NO WAY that anyone is just going to drive in and start filming without security coming down on them. Also in that 2cd video which has a date of 2006 I noticed a lot of railcars, a lot of normal looking civilian vehicles, and not one single military vehicle anywhere. Another thing is that a prison facility would be expected to have a double fence with razor wire, not a single plain chain link with 3 rows of regular barb wire.

Just my observations.
 

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Some of you are confusing a detention facility with a prison. These types of facilities would be used for temporary housing while people are processed for whatever purpose. :P A prison would be used for long term confinement and punishment.
 

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"U.S. Bureau of Prisons - Federal Transfer Center - Oklahoma City"

This facility is believed to be one of the "detention centers", that MD Dog mentioned in the above post.

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