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    Newfoundland
    Currently own: Fisher CZ5, Tesoro Vaquero, Tesoro Cortes, Vibraprobe 560, Vibradetector 720, Garrett ProPointer. Used: Whites Liberty2, Garrett Freedom3, Garrett GTA 1000, Fisher1266X,Tesoro Cibola
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    Are the new F series detectors as good as the older models?

    Are the new F series detectors as good as the older X or the CZ series? I have used the 1266X and still have my CZ 5 detector which I have been using since the mid 90's. Know it like the back of my hand. So when the time comes when my ole CZ goes to detector heaven, should I stick with Fisher or switch to another brand? They didn't have a good reputation when the F series line first came out. However, now it seems like they are improved and have a following. What do you think?

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    Re: Are the new F series detectors as good as the older models?

    Fisher lost a lot of reputation when First Texas bought them I think because First Texas makes Bounty Hunters. I don't know if the F-series is really all that better but the warranty isn't for life anymore so that has to say something. The newer F's have different features than the older CZ's but I don't think they are as deep. My CZ-6a is still going strong. You just have to know your machine and I have all the coils for it.
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    ca
    Oct 2007
    Newfoundland
    Currently own: Fisher CZ5, Tesoro Vaquero, Tesoro Cortes, Vibraprobe 560, Vibradetector 720, Garrett ProPointer. Used: Whites Liberty2, Garrett Freedom3, Garrett GTA 1000, Fisher1266X,Tesoro Cibola
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    Re: Are the new F series detectors as good as the older models?

    Sandman

    That's why I am hesitant about buying another Fisher. About 4 years ago I had to send back my CZ5 because of a problem with my discrimination. The lifetime warranty was still on the detector (I am the original owner) however they were not too receptive about honoring the warranty. After a few exchanges they agreed to repair it. They repaired it at no charge and received it back in about 6 weeks. So I am wondering if that lifetime warranty is still valid. Still running like it always did. Do you know Sandman, if they (First Texas) still honor those lifetime warranties?

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    Excal 1000, Excal II, Sovereign GT, CZ-20, Tiger Shark, Tejon, GTI 1500, Surfmaster Pulse, CZ6a, DFX, AT PRO, Fisher 1235, Surf PI Pro, 1280-X, many more because I enjoy learning them.
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    Re: Are the new F series detectors as good as the older models?

    I would either call FTP or address a message with M Scott @FTP in the subject line. Maybe he'll respond.
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    Re: Are the new F series detectors as good as the older models?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman
    I would either call FTP or address a message with M Scott @FTP in the subject line. Maybe he'll respond.
    Mike Scotts email is .... mscott@frsttx.com ....... And he is really good at responding to his Emails...
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    Re: Are the new F series detectors as good as the older models?

    Fisher been around for a good long time. If they put out new tectors that were not better than the old, then Fisher not be around for any time soon.
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    Re: Are the new F series detectors as good as the older models?

    The F series detectors are Great machines. I love them all! Fisher and First Texas are top notch!



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    ca
    Oct 2007
    Newfoundland
    Currently own: Fisher CZ5, Tesoro Vaquero, Tesoro Cortes, Vibraprobe 560, Vibradetector 720, Garrett ProPointer. Used: Whites Liberty2, Garrett Freedom3, Garrett GTA 1000, Fisher1266X,Tesoro Cibola
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    Re: Are the new F series detectors as good as the older models?

    Quote Originally Posted by gleaner1
    Fisher been around for a good long time. If they put out new tectors that were not better than the old, then Fisher not be around for any time soon.
    I'm not really sure about that. The older models such as the CZ and 1200 series were great machines, built like tanks, with great performance and still considered to be of exceptional quality. When they switched over to the F series many people were disappointed.

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    Re: Are the new F series detectors as good as the older models?

    I had to send in my CZ6-A for repair last summer and they would not honor my life time warranty, i sold Fisher for many years,not when FT owned them.
    But they did a great job fixing the detector,got it back in two weeks just cost me $155.00 and its deeper that when it was new.
    As for the newer ones i just don`t know,had the F75 and gave it to my brother.
    Gary G.A.P.metal
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    Re: Are the new F series detectors as good as the older models?

    Quote Originally Posted by Newfiehunter
    Quote Originally Posted by gleaner1
    Fisher been around for a good long time. If they put out new tectors that were not better than the old, then Fisher not be around for any time soon.
    I'm not really sure about that. The older models such as the CZ and 1200 series were great machines, built like tanks, with great performance and still considered to be of exceptional quality. When they switched over to the F series many people were disappointed.
    The major complaints were the assumed inadequate shielding, "flimsy plastic" and poor customer service. If you want a new machine built like a tank, avoid Fisher.
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    ca
    Oct 2007
    Newfoundland
    Currently own: Fisher CZ5, Tesoro Vaquero, Tesoro Cortes, Vibraprobe 560, Vibradetector 720, Garrett ProPointer. Used: Whites Liberty2, Garrett Freedom3, Garrett GTA 1000, Fisher1266X,Tesoro Cibola
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    Re: Are the new F series detectors as good as the older models?

    Quote Originally Posted by G.A.P.metal
    I had to send in my CZ6-A for repair last summer and they would not honor my life time warranty, i sold Fisher for many years,not when FT owned them.
    But they did a great job fixing the detector,got it back in two weeks just cost me $155.00 and its deeper that when it was new.
    As for the newer ones i just don`t know,had the F75 and gave it to my brother.
    Gary G.A.P.metal
    Gary, were you the original owner of the CZ6a? If so, they should have honored the warranty. But then again, like I said before they tried to avoid complying with the lifetime warranty. Honestly, I think I'd go with another brand name before trying the F series. Wouldn't take the chance of getting a lemon of a detector if the stories about it is true. One more thing. Is the CZ3D the same basically as the CZ5? Just wondering. The only difference is they renamed normal/salt mode to salt/enhanced mode and there is another tone. Am I correct in that assumption?

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    Re: Are the new F series detectors as good as the older models?

    Newfiehauter
    Yes I was the original owner sent the card into the Fisher company but, FT sill would not horror the warranty and i just wanted my CZ fixed so i just paid.
    Gary
    I`v been detecting for 45 years owned my own detector shop G.A.P. Metal Detectors here in N.Y.
    See my old adds in Western & Eastern Treasures and Lost Treasure Magazines through the 90s
    I hunt the Sullivan Trail here in N.Y.
    Its the Golden Rule who ever has the Gold Rules
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    NEL Sharpshooter Coil 9 1/2" X 5 1/2"
    NEL Sharp Coil 5"
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    Re: Are the new F series detectors as good as the older models?

    Have the old and the new Fisher like em both .

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    Re: Are the new F series detectors as good as the older models?

    I updated my 1265x with a F70 a few years back. I haven't used the 1265x since. What some people call cheap and flimsy is a light weight detector I can use all day long without any aches or pains. My 1265 had unlimited depth but I dug lots of iron going for the deep targets. The F70 can hit those deep targets as well but the deep signals start to ID as iron. It took me about 4 months to speak F series language effectively(before that I was a complainer) but I love the detector and you will be amazed at what you can pull out of trashy iron laden sites.

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    Re: Are the new F series detectors as good as the older models?

    My 2 favorite detectors that I own right now are the Garrett AT Pro and the Teknetics G2 (same innards as the Fisher Gold Bug Pro DP). These are limited to 10" on a dime in air tests, but are good for finding tiny gold, have excellent separation, & can be used almost anywhere. The
    AT Pro can even go underwater to 10'.

    People write about these detectors see-through abilities in iron, and the lightness of weight enabling them to detect many hours without discomfort. They are best values for sure.

    The F70 I used was too unstable on ID #s, tones, & made noises hard to tell from coins. That might be less annoying to a relic hunter, or a beach hunter as digging easier in sand & no worrying about grass damage.

    The Garrett AT Pro correctly IDed a 7" deep dime, #s always 80-85, and a high tone on every pass, using STD mode sensitivity 7, coins program and manual ground balance. Pro mode does some tricks like detecting a coin under a nail. In my ground, most detectors can't ID a dime beyond 3" to 5". 7" is the deepest I've dug a dime ever as I only dig coin IDs.

    The Teknetics G2 I haven't really taken anywhere yet, but my 5"+ dime, slightly tilted, IDs back & forth between zinc & dime, with a loud signal. It can sometimes be used at max sensitivity of 100, but gave an ID on this dime down to sensitivity 12. Ground phase reading tells you when you need to adjust the ground balance. Larger numerical ID than AT Pro.

    The Teknetics T2SE is said to be several inches deeper, but costs a few hundred more. Best wishes, George (MN)

 

 
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