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    Trade ring?

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    I found this in a patch of woods that has produced hardly any metal at all, the exception is there is a 1830ís trade site a couple 100 yds from where I found this. There is a large gap between the two areas where I find nothing even on 0 discovery.
    My point is these two areas may or may not be related but, in the area I found this ring I have also found two trade awls and a thimble from a northwest gun so I think thereís a chance the ring is trade era.
    It looks like itís got a base metal of copper or something similar with a plating of what I think may be silver because it turned more black after a brief use of naval jelly.
    Anybody know anything about trade era rings? Did I find one, is it impossible to say? Iíd just love to get some more info on this
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    dirt sniffer

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    I thought you'd get an answer here for sure. Kind of the right shape but the plating puts it 1840+ and i don't know if trade goods were ever plated.
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    us
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    Trade ring?

    Thanks for the reply. Sometimes the tnet gods are fickle haha. Thatís ok I know itís a ring and have a strong gut feeling itís trade era, Iíd just feel better about my id with some support from some knowledgeable folks.

    Iíve found some similar ones on line that had glass stones, I canít say if itís truly plated or just dipped.
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    where I found it could have been a separate site from my 1830ís site. I wouldnít be surprised if it wasnít a good area to stop when the natives went west to hunt buffalo and this new spot was used several years after the 1830ís spot. 1840ís is very much in the realm of native settlement. The area wasnít opened to white settlement until the 1860ís.
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    I hadn't answered because the Trade Goods I find stop about 1820. None of my Trade rings appear to have plating. However some are the single stone like yours. I guess I would need the ring in hand to really comment on it....? It certainly could be a Trade ring..........Nice find!

    Iowa Dale
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    us
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    Trade ring?

    Thanks, it hadnít occurred to me that the trade era has different end dates based on geography Iíll be sure to include location info on future posts. Itís encouraging to know someone has single stone rings.
    Does anybody know if they would have dipped rings like they did flat buttons? Because from what I can find the more basic the ring the earlier it is, which suggests this one is early and the northwest gun thimble would also be earlier
    So if it wasnít for the plating issue Iíd say Iíd be looking at something more in the late 1700ís range not mid 1800ís
    Last edited by Older The Better; May 19, 2019 at 07:29 AM.

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    Glass cabochon trade ring

    Quote Originally Posted by Older The Better View Post
    Thanks, it hadnít occurred to me that the trade era has different end dates based on geography Iíll be sure to include location info on future posts. Itís encouraging to know someone has single stone rings.
    Does anybody know if they would have dipped rings like they did flat buttons? Because from what I can find the more basic the ring the earlier it is, which suggests this one is early and the northwest gun thimble would also be earlier
    So if it wasnít for the plating issue Iíd say Iíd be looking at something more in the late 1700ís range not mid 1800ís
    its definitely a trade ring,appears to be a later version ,similar to what you would find on a 1700s site ,these are known as glass stone trade rings ,yours having a center stone known as a cabochon, because its round...they come in many different glass stone colors and different glass stone configurations, yours being the simple plain single stone cabochon.....refer to michigan ft michilimac etc for reference ,lots of those found in that region ,hope this helps

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    us
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    Trade ring?

    I always try to stay open to the fact somebody can come along and prove me wrong and thatís ok I want to know what a thing is. Iím not looking for people to tell me what I want to hear.
    that said Iím glad to get some great info and input in favor of it being a trade ring I feel comfortable calling it one until proven otherwise thank you for the info it will give me some more avenues to research

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    Your welcome,wish I could tell you more ,but I'm very certain it's a glass stone ring,I wish I could figure out pictures ,I'd show you my trade rings,mine are 1600s&1700s...ny.....,I've seen a lot of those types of rings ,they are all basically the same and could even prob go into the early 1800s....the rarer type is a square princess cut center stone / 2 small round stones to the side ,2 examples have been found in ny that I know of ,mine dated to 1650 for certain,but was missing the glass stones (all of them) which is usually the case,or at least some stones missing...so I sold the band,....I want a complete one with all stones

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    ca
    Feb 2017
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    I believe it is a trade ring with stone missing.
    Hereís a pic of my trade ring w/o stone
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    us
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relicific View Post
    I believe it is a trade ring with stone missing.
    Here’s a pic of my trade ring w/o stone
    I haven't found any on my sites with square mounts..........Interesting!

    Iowa Dale

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    JohnnyRelic

    Jan 2016
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    It is a trade ring. I have one just like it from a 1830's era village site. It is missing the stone...or maybe never had one.

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    dirt sniffer

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    They more than likely had the glass stones at one point...that's another unusual square type ,without the side smaller stones,there are a few unusual types of those, but round type being most common,many types of different colored stones though....I had the pleasure to view 2 local rings with glass stones found on a site at geneseo NY dating 1700,both were round bezel no side stones ,amethyst and green in color ,and complete....

 

 

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